Cycle advice

[Muscle of Steel]

Need some advice from the pros.

I'm 6'0, 206, 14%BF

This is the gear I came up with. How does the cycle sound? I know nobody likes sus but its all I can get from my source. Also, should I use Proviron or Nolvadex or both when taking the Anadrol ? I also plan on taking 1000mg of Milk Thistle ED during the cycle so I don't kill my liver.

Week 1: 750mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot, Anadrol 50mg ED
Week 2: 500mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot, Anadrol 50mg ED
Week 3: 500mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot, Anadrol 100mg ED
Week 4: 500mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot, Anadrol 100mg ED
Week 5: 500mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot
Week 6: 500mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot
Week 7: 250mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot
Week 8: 250mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot
Week 9: 250mg sus, 100mg primobolan depot, 5000 I.U. HCG
Week 10: 5000 I.U. HCG
Week 11: 5000 I.U. HCG
Week 12: 300mg clomid day 1, 100mg clomid 10 days, 50mg clomid 10 days

[arthurb999]

What's your cycle history... a-bombs are hardcore shit, you don't like dbol ?

[The original jason]

hmmm well I would change a few things to be honest I dont like sust either but I wouldnt taper it that way I would just run it right through or not at all the 100mg per week of primo I would save for post cycle 100mg will do nothing for you. HCG is not good to be used post cycle at all it should be used weeks 6&7 if you are doing an 8 week cycle at 500iu's ed. I am really not sure what to suggest can you tell us your experience???

peace
Jason

[marx]

Pretty much what OJ said...

Don't taper off sust, 100mg primo is nothing, HCG is not suppose to be used post cycle, hook us up with you're cycle history and goals and we'll be able to help you out...

marx

[RON]

First Arthur is right drol is kinda harsh if this is your first cycle. Id run the sust 500 through out. Why are you using HGC at all with a cycle like this clomid should be fine. IMO ....Your AS history is definatly needed. Are these the only anabolics you can get?

[Muscle of Steel]

Thanks for the help...

1st cycle (June '00) I did was just straight Anadrol .
week 1-2 50mg
week 2-3 100mg
week 4-6 50mg

took 40mg Nolvadex during week 6 and 20mg for two weeks after. If I remember right, I lost just about everything. I did this cycle based on people I talked too in the gym. I wish I knew then what I know now about Anadrol. My lack of knowledge=no gain and 20 years knocked off the life of my liver

2nd cycle (Nov. '00)=
week 1-3 250mg sus, 100mg primo depot
week 4-5 500mg sus, 100mg primo depot
week 6-7 750mg sus, 100mg primo depot
week 8-9 500mg sus, 100mg primo depot
week 10-12 250mg sus, 100mg primo depot
week 12-13 5000 I.U. HCG

Took 40mg nolvadex during week 12 and Proviron @25mg for 2 weeks. Again, from what I read and was told then, HCG was taken as a way to kick start my natural test prod. I made some great gains on this cycle and kept most of it. Fluke maybe?

I haven't done a cycle since then but I feel its time for a boost. I'm sure I can get other stuff in place of drol and sus, but I was sticking with them since I liked the results they gave me from the last time I used them. I suffered no side effects other than water retention from when I did the drol cycle.

Should I just drop the Primo altogether since 100mg doesn't do anything?

[RON]

If you liked the drol and you didn't have side effects that bad, go for it. Some people like A bombs. or you can put about 35mg/ day of d-bol in its place. Its up to you. If you wanna use the primo Id use at least 200 mg but for better gains run eq or deca at 400 mg/week . Run the sus at 500-600mg/week. No need for the tapering. Then you definitely need some clomid at the end to help keep your gains and bring test production back up.

[iron4life79]

Originally posted by RON
If you liked the drol and you didn't have side effects that bad, go for it. Some people like A bombs. or you can put about 35mg/ day of d-bol in its place. Its up to you. If you wanna use the primo Id use at least 200 mg but for better gains run eq or deca at 400 mg/week . Run the sus at 500-600mg/week. No need for the tapering. Then you definitely need some clomid at the end to help keep your gains and bring test production back up.

ron nailed it for ya, however the only thing i would change is to taper the drol. i would run it 50, 100, 100, and 50. and since im giving my unwanted opinion, i would replace the sustanon also, enanthate is my choice.

peace bb79

[lil' juicer]

The reason you had good post cycle success is because you did take hcg post cycle. Why everyone is saying not to is beyond me.

[4plates]

i suggest taking the sus @500 for 8 wks,hitting the abombs at 50mg ed for the first 4 wks and doing the primo @300 wk for 3 wks 9-10-11.

[RON]

lil' juicer, HCG is generally used in the middle of long cycles. For a cycle like this clomid therapy at the end would do fine

[G Child]

What about HCG beginning of cycle, HCG mid cycle and HCG post cycle?