Test?

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:16 AM

How many vials do I need to buy to do a novice cycle of ten weeks?

**johnnybigguns** · 07-18-2008, 12:19 AM

What kind of test are you gunna run

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:23 AM

test e but I am still looking at my options because I don't want water weight but would like a ten pound gain.....any suggestions?

**burnin69** · 07-18-2008, 12:25 AM

stats? age? cycle history?

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-18-2008, 12:25 AM

stats please

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:26 AM

6'0" 190lbs 26 years old no cycle history

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:28 AM

Was 200lbs put I got back on a good diet and cardio. I cut weight like I was on coke.lol

**johnnybigguns** · 07-18-2008, 12:28 AM

test e at 500mg per week for 12 weeks might be a good one for you but you will have some bloat.

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:33 AM

That's my problem I don't want the bloat. I have read alot of threads and keep mixing stuff up, so I figured I needed to start asking questions. I don't mind needles so I could stick myself daily, film it, then watch it as sticking myself again. I understand that the ones that don't casue as much bloat are injested EOD. So is this the route I should take?

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:33 AM

That's my problem I don't want the bloat. I have read alot of threads and keep mixing stuff up, so I figured I needed to start asking questions. I don't mind needles so I could stick myself daily, film it, then watch it while I was sticking myself again. I understand that the ones that don't casue as much bloat are injested EOD. So is this the route I should take?

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-18-2008, 12:35 AM

you can get two (2) 10cc Vials of Test E and inject 2xW..also take adex with it

or you can run prop and inject eod

the choice is urs brother

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:45 AM

which one causes less bloat and gets good gains. adex is to deal with bloat right? What about test c and sust 50?

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:47 AM

Opps I meant tren A and stan 50?

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 12:50 AM

Tren A 75mgs/EOD
Stan50 100-300mgs/week

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-18-2008, 12:52 AM

its your 1st cycle...just play it safe and smart...stick to a test and you will get the 10lbs you want from it...you will not become overly huge but you will get good gains

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 01:06 AM

Thanks man. The vials are 10ml vial contains 250mg/ml, so I need two? Split the dosage to every third day with proper pct. Can I use anything for bloat or hardner?

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 01:30 AM

Aight so I have been reading some more on test e and test p. I think I like test prop at 150mg EOD, with proper pct. Sound good?

**fiveoooh** · 07-18-2008, 08:01 AM

FYI, I have been running Test Cyp for about 4 weeks now in a hrt program. It has made a big difference. I have gained 9 lbs and no bloat. Good workouts and added stregnth. Taking 100mg twice a week in the quad

Good luck 5.0

**majorpecs** · 07-18-2008, 09:00 AM

If you are going to do prop, then I'd run it ED. I have alot of experience with prop and it seems to give better results on ED.

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 05:39 PM

Well with your experience is cyp or prop better for not getting bloat? Do you inject 100mg ED?

**GettinBigAintEZ** · 07-18-2008, 05:43 PM

who cares about bloat. Dude just man up. Armidex will take care of bloat if you really care that much.

**one8nine** · 07-18-2008, 05:54 PM

letro is better for bloat in my experience

**AcePowerZ** · 07-18-2008, 05:57 PM

if you dont know how many vials to buy then u do not know math!!! Learn math man cmon its 5th grade math !!

**one8nine** · 07-18-2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by AcePowerZ

if you dont know how many vials to buy then u do not know math!!! Learn math man cmon its 5th grade math !!

you are the last person on this board to trash talk math or nything aas related for that matter

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 06:03 PM

I care about bloat. I understand what I can do about the bloat but I have read alot of threads and some good things about prop. You get good solid gains without the bloat and it is low liver toxic. Just drinking water and taking in vitamins, you are pretty much good. So why would I take test e or deka to get bloat? This is my first cycle and I am interested in the novice cycles. If I can buy a good injectable without having to take a water retention prohibitor than that saves money. Later cycles I am more than willing to do more later but I am just wanting to see the outcome of something that is a little more basic to take without all the extra things to do.

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 06:05 PM

Sorry man I didn't mean how many do I need to buy to take a full cycle, I meant should I buy any extra.

**one8nine** · 07-18-2008, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

I care about bloat. I understand what I can do about the bloat but I have read alot of threads and some good things about prop. You get good solid gains without the bloat and it is low liver toxic. Just drinking water and taking in vitamins, you are pretty much good. So why would I take test e or deka to get bloat? This is my first cycle and I am interested in the novice cycles. If I can buy a good injectable without having to take a water retention prohibitor than that saves money. Later cycles I am more than willing to do more later but I am just wanting to see the outcome of something that is a little more basic to take without all the extra things to do.

you will probably be disappointed wih eod injcts with prop alone. ed injects are much more effective

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 06:16 PM

Thanks bro's I appreciate the help. I am not trying to be difficult but I do not see any reasons buying extra stuff. If I can buy one injectable and pct still getting good results that sounds more realistic to me. So I will do prop ed and keep everyone updated on my results just in case anyone else are looking for the same results. Thanks again

**one8nine** · 07-18-2008, 06:29 PM

for how long? and what dosage?
whats for pct

**RangersLTW** · 07-18-2008, 06:43 PM

Well actually I am taking this one step at a time but let me get the print outs and I will post in few about everything I am going to get and what dosages. One question though all the novice cycles say ten weeks so that was what I was going to do but I am up for suggestions from experienced members.

**inky-e** · 07-18-2008, 07:35 PM

I think a nice beginner test cycle could be cipionate at 500 mg's a week. If you can get it in vials that are 250 mg's per ML all you need is two vials for ten weeks. If they are 200mg's per ML then shoot 400 mg's per week. Maybe on Mondays and Thursdays.

**Ashop** · 07-18-2008, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

How many vials do I need to buy to do a novice cycle of ten weeks?

1-3 10ml vials depending on dosages.

**one8nine** · 07-18-2008, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

Well actually I am taking this one step at a time but let me get the print outs and I will post in few about everything I am going to get and what dosages. One question though all the novice cycles say ten weeks so that was what I was going to do but I am up for suggestions from experienced members.

6-7 weeks would be plenty
keep in mind those 10 week test e cycles take 3-5 weeks to reach peak levels
prop is ~3 days

if i was doing prop alone, personally-
1-7: 100mg ed
1-7: letro .25 mg ed/eod
6-9: hcg 500iu 2x wk
8-11: 30mg nolva+50mg proviron

**MercyDog** · 07-18-2008, 09:25 PM

If you don't mind ed injects you may just try prop. 50mg. ed and see how that goes. Alot of people respond very well on 350mg. week. Besides you can always cycle again in the future and 10lbs. isn't all that much. Also this will leave room for you to cut the shot so you won't feel paralized starting out.