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    AI questions

    (2nd post, so still a doofus and likely will be for some time)

    I have read a bit but want some first hand advice, planning 2nd cycle.
    TestC 500 and Deca 400 12 wks (changed mind from EQ))
    I am kind of "skinny fat" - 6'6" 215 with some handfulls of belly and back fat. (I know..looks great) Not sure of BF, guessing 13-15%. Trying to cut right now (cardio/diet) before starting cycle, but think one of my problems might be natural high level of aromatization. (?)
    Goal: 15-20lbs Lean muscle, BF down to under 10%

    Adex:
    1) Is .25 ED enough for 1st time user?
    2) Should use throughout, as needed or only at end with PCT?
    3) Read that Adex alone at .5 ED jacks your natural Test about 50% and lowers Estrodiol 50%. Sounds awesome. Should it be used even off cycle?

    Nolva: Is it true shouldn't use with Adex at same time b/c Nolva decreases Adex?

    Letro: seems too strong - cuts off all estrogen, has bad sides on lipids, libido ...what's its appropriate use?
    Exmestane - who has good experience with this?
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    deca needs to be cut a week or 2 before test
    1- yes
    2- as needed but dont forget estrogen helps clean the liver etc use it on cycle and pct thats all imo
    3- it can be but you needs breaks too

    dont know about nolva/dex

    letro is my favorite its not as terrible as you can read

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    Thanks.

    The info I got about Nolva interfering with Adex was from AR's take on PCT - he recommends Nolva plus Aromasin. Reading around this board I see that AR is a dubious douche though.

    I think I'll reserve Letro as a backup for now.

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    I just finished (5weeks ago) a cycle similar to that. I used adex as needed, pct was adex and nolva.

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    I would run something to help with progesterone related gyno. I ran a similar cycle a while ago with aromasin at 12.5mgs every 12 hours (excessive) but nothing for the deca and sure enough I had gyno and leeky nips by week 7....

    good luck.

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    Progesterone and gyno

    I was wondering about that - progesterone related gyno - how do you counter?
    What's the main culprit there, the Test or the Deca?

    I looked around for Progesterone blockers - found Faslodex (downregulates receptors), Mifepristone and Epostane (2 abortifacients), - none of which seem to be used in BB (?)
    Bromocriptine was mentioned but this is a Dopamine agonist and therefore decreases Prolactin - might help but this is a different mech. Doesn't stop Progesterone.
    Also Bromo is a drug with a high freq. of bad sides ...(I am an MD)

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