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    4th cycle thoughts

    Hi....4th cycle upcoming

    220lbs
    5'8"
    15-16%bf and still cutting(2 months till start of cycle)
    lifting 13 years w/ 11years of powerlifting
    improving diet

    1st cycle
    test e, deca

    dnp cycle

    2nd
    test e, tren e, dbol

    dnp cycle

    3rd
    testp, tren a, mast

    dnp cycle

    NOW im sick of tren insomnia, irritability and always being sweaty

    Wanting to do

    Sus 250 eod x 14wks
    npp 200 eod x 12 wks
    var 50mg ed x 6 wks (or should i up dose and do 4wks with higher mg/day???)

    maybe mast 100mg eod if funds permit

    QUESTIONS
    1 what route do i go with the var?
    2 what during and post cycle chemicals should I use (thinking proviron and hcg) but not sure what else.

    Thoughts and concerns appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Hi....4th cycle upcoming

    220lbs
    5'8"
    15-16%bf and still cutting(2 months till start of cycle)
    lifting 13 years w/ 11years of powerlifting
    improving diet

    1st cycle
    test e, deca

    dnp cycle

    2nd
    test e, tren e, dbol

    dnp cycle

    3rd
    testp, tren a, mast

    dnp cycle

    NOW im sick of tren insomnia, irritability and always being sweaty

    Wanting to do

    Sus 250 eod x 14wks
    npp 200 eod x 12 wks
    var 50mg ed x 6 wks (or should i up dose and do 4wks with higher mg/day???)

    maybe mast 100mg eod if funds permit

    QUESTIONS
    1 what route do i go with the var?
    2 what during and post cycle chemicals should I use (thinking proviron and hcg) but not sure what else.

    Thoughts and concerns appreciated
    if your going to run the npp for 12 weeks then why not just use deca and shoot once a week instead of ed. if your looking to cut eq might be a better choice then deca or npp. as for pct, you can take nolva and proviron for 4 weeks.
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    i kinda like the way my joints feel with deca....so im looking forward to npp....heard that its hard to cut with eq because of food cravings....this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    i kinda like the way my joints feel with deca....so im looking forward to npp....heard that its hard to cut with eq because of food cravings....this true?
    eq is alot easier for me to cut with because i retain alot more water with deca then eq. the food cravings are definatly real for me but i know alot of people that wont get it. i run alot of cutting cycles with eq and never had a problem because i eat healthy. you can cut with deca but in my mind its one of the hardest drugs to cut with.
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    not deca....NPP

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT View Post
    if your going to run the npp for 12 weeks then why not just use deca and shoot once a week instead of ed. if your looking to cut eq might be a better choice then deca or npp. as for pct, you can take nolva and proviron for 4 weeks.
    hes already planning on the sust eod why not do them at the same time? kick in faster too

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Wanting to do

    Sus 250 eod x 14wks
    npp 200 eod x 12 wks
    var 50mg ed x 6 wks (or should i up dose and do 4wks with higher mg/day???)

    maybe mast 100mg eod if funds permit

    QUESTIONS
    1 what route do i go with the var?
    2 what during and post cycle chemicals should I use (thinking proviron and hcg) but not sure what else.

    Thoughts and concerns appreciated
    i think sust sucks but you have obviously been around enough to make your own call on that

    are you kickstarting with var or finishing with it?
    i would personally finish with it. you already have short esters kicking in fast, might as well fill in that gap at the end waiting for pct.
    i like 6 weeks at 50mg better than 4 at a higher

    masteron would be a great addition
    if it was me personally though i would go npp100/masteron200 as opposed to npp200/masteron100

    proviron and hcg are golden, but nolva is the best tool imo
    i would do 4 weeks of hcg 500iu 2x a week starting right when you cut your sust, so you have 2 weeks preparing for pct and 2 weeks into pct
    then 2 weeks after sust is cut 40mg nolva 50mg proviron 4 weeks

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    so change the sus to what???

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