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    HELP!!! What to do for Nutz and womanboobs..

    Starting a 12wk Test e cycle. 500mg/wk.
    Dbol 30mg ED first five weeks.


    Using anthony roberts PCT
    Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
    1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    6 20mgs/day


    My question is... what should I use throughout my cycle to keep my nutsize and sex drive up as well as keep that dreaded gyno at bay.....
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    why u using hcg ? Keep nolva on hand incase something happens...
    Am I being old school? lol
    What are u trying to do? keep the bloat down? IMO when your on dbol u should want the bloat...If u don't...Don't take it!
    Whats your situation?

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    i doubt ur "nuts will shrink" and through in .5mg/d of an AI and ull be fine with gyno! HCG will known to keep your balls from ascending!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso View Post
    why u using hcg ? Keep nolva on hand incase something happens...
    Am I being old school? lol
    What are u trying to do? keep the bloat down? IMO when your on dbol u should want the bloat...If u don't...Don't take it!
    Whats your situation?
    Hcg to stimulate the testes to produce their own test. And that was under PCT, not during the cycle...

    Keep the bloat down? I dont think you read my post thoroughly, either that or I didn't make my situation simple enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1115 View Post
    i doubt ur "nuts will shrink" and through in .5mg/d of an AI and ull be fine with gyno! HCG will known to keep your balls from ascending!
    My nuts wont be smaller by the end of week 12 before PCT??? Will my sex drive stay up for the entire cycle? It's important, I've got a sex hungry girlfriend that wants/gets it daily....


    To which AI are you referring? Arimidex ?

    I'm using a fair amount of HCG in my PCT. Wont it's use during my cycle as well as PCTdesensitize my gonads to it's effects?
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    U don't need hcg during post cycle. U need clomid/nolva post cycle...Extended clomid but hcg is used for longer cycles IMO.
    Your nuts are most likely gonna shrink dude..If u can't handle that then don't take steriods ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso View Post
    U don't need hcg during post cycle. U need clomid/nolva post cycle...Extended clomid but hcg is used for longer cycles IMO.
    Your nuts are most likely gonna shrink dude..If u can't handle that then don't take steriods....
    Aren't Clomid and Nolva both SERMS? What about an AI???

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    what i wrote above is what i used many many times. I'm retired so maybe i'm outta the loop alittle bit but thats what I've done in the past and have had my blood come back almost perfect. Seems the "New ways" come around every so often. Are they better? I dunno...Chime in guys.........

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    I'm using a fair amount of HCG in my PCT. Wont it's use during my cycle as well as PCTdesensitize my gonads to it's effects?
    And will my sex drive stay up for the entire cycle? It's important, I've got a sex hungry girlfriend that wants/gets it daily....

    So, would an AI througout a cycle PREVENT gyno???

    Thanks guys

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    Dude i think you need to do alot of reading before you start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelleh View Post
    Dude i think you need to do alot of reading before you start
    I have been reading for awhile. But there can be alot of areas of confusion.

    I've got everything for my cycle by reading and these are confusing areas for me, otherwise I WOULDNT POST!!!

    I know how to use the search button and use it frequently!!

    I hope theres someone out there who isnt too stuck up to help and not be a dick..

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    ok .. ur sex drive will be alive .. this will be like ur going through puberty again lmao ... hontesly ive never had my nuts disappear from test and dbols...maybe lil bit with 19nors

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    an ai will prevent gyno ..though i doubt u will get it but if u did, run an ai at 1 gram a day ull be fine

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    o yah and watch out as HCg can suppress ur natty levels again if u use to much

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