will this get me bulky and ripped?

[sdprolife]

i want to be bulky
but i want definition
i have 20ml of testosterone enanthate 250 mg/ml
and tren xtreme pro hormone
im gonna kick start the cycle with the tren x
week 1-4/testosterone enanthate 500 mg/pw and tren x 90mg/ed
week 5-10/ testosterone enanthate 500mg/pw

will i get bulky and lose definition?
also what else can i do while im on cycle to get mass and be ripped?

[Kelleh]

Is this your first Cycle? Post some of your stats up too bro. Try to work on one thing at a time maybe. Work on the bulk then work on cutting.......

[N*E*R*D]

Why you using prohormone if you can get hold of aas?

[DSM4Life]

Gear gets you no where without diet.

[Kratos]

no, it won't get you bulky and ripped, honestly
start with your age, weight, height, bodyfat
first cycle?
and you are gonna need anti-e's and pct

[sdprolife]

i am 5'6
23
and weigh 206
first cycle
and i can only get testosterone enanthate
i cannot get any dianabol or anything but test
all i have is tren x
do you think this will work?
and with diet i already know what ill be doing and eating
i just need to know how to gain mass while getting more definition

[sdprolife]

i have anti e and pct already
nolva clomid hcg

[Dukkit]

wait wait... What the fck!! you posted a thread like this yesterday. i replied to you. you got your answers. what the hell are you doing now?

check it

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=353327

[Phate]

i am 5'6
23
and weigh 206
first cycle
and i can only get testosterone enanthate
i cannot get any dianabol or anything but test
all i have is tren x
do you think this will work?
and with diet i already know what ill be doing and eating
i just need to know how to gain mass while getting more definition

what's your bf%, 206 at 5'6 is pretty big

[Dukkit]

i answer his questions and give him advice.. and what do i get. he goes behind my back and posts up almost the same exact thread. ugh. fckin guys

no you wont get bulky AND ripped. not going to happen.

[sdprolife]

im 11% bodyfat
i want to get more definition

[DSM4Life]

wait wait... What the fck!! you posted a thread like this yesterday. i replied to you. you got your answers. what the hell are you doing now?

check it

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=353327

Just another person on the boards that doesn't listen to you !


J/k

[Phate]

so are you 5'6 or 5'8 like in your other post?

[sdprolife]

dukkit^^
i appreciate your advice
i forgot to ask if it will get me bulky with no definition though
dont take it so serious im jw bro

[sdprolife]

ok idk where your tryin to go with the 5'8 5'6 comment
there is such thing as spelling errors prick

[Dukkit]

Just another person on the boards that doesn't listen to you !


J/k

*sniff sniff, tear*

this is why i stick to the whore thread. im important there. hahah

[Phate]

anyway, here's everything you need to know for your first cycle, all your answers should be answered if you read this in it's entirety

CARDIO

cardio is, but the type of cardio is what he's talking about, running is not the best for fat burning

for low intensity long duration cardio i would use a stationary bike or walk at 3.0-4.0mph on a high incline for 30-50minutes

for HIIT training i would use a stairstepper, elliptical or stationary bike and do this
5minutes warm up
1min at 40-50% of max effort
30sec at 85-90% max effort
1min at 40-50% of max effort
30sec at 85-90% max effort
continue that for 15-20 minutes or until you can't go any more
then cool down for 5 minutes

low intensity will burn more calories from fat but will also burn less total calories as the intensity isn't as high as HIIT

HIIT training will burn a lower percentage of calories from fat, though not by much, i think the study i read said 10-12% max, but will burn many more calories total and will increase metabolism for up to 24 hours after cardio, this is called the afterburn effect, where you burn extra calories because of an increase in metabolic output

to give you an estimate i wlll outline one of my cardio routines

low intensity
3.2-3.5mph 8%incline on treadmill for 30minutes burns 350cal

HIIT
using what i outlined above i burn close to 500cal in 20-25minutes plus the extra that i get afterwards



DIET HELP

here is the diet that i'm on right now, it's a good base to go off of, listed below are things to help you create your own diet off it

1) One thing that will help you drastically is called carb tapering, if you notice the bulk of my carbs are in the morning and after my workout, i don't eat hardly any close to when i go to sleep

2) Another thing is that eat meal is either protein/carb or protein/fat and the fats are good fats(EFA=Essential fatty acids) from flax oil or fish oil. Try not to eat fat with carbs as the fat will become, well, fat since your body is made to be energy efficient, by putting carbs, which are easier to break down for energy, in the same meal as fats your body stores the fat for later and uses the carbs for energy, not what you want.

3) try to eat every 2-3 hours, this is the amount of time it takes for your body to digest a meal and by giving it a constant stream of food you will ensure that your metabolism is kept high, also, calories are not the same, protein has the highest thermodynamic effect, which means that it takes more calories to digest protein than carbs or fat, this also increases your metabolism

4) You should try to get at least 50-60g of protein in every meal, this is about the max your body can take at one time

5) here are some tricks for making eating so often easier, i know it's hard, i go to school 8 hours a day and i'm not allowed to bring food into class so i have to work around that
a) Make a weeks worth of food on your day off, go buy a ton of chicken, lean turkey and very lean beef and grill it, then put it in ziplock bags and label with the amount of calories and protein per bag, YOU WILL NEED TO BUY A CHEAP SCALE FOR THIS, YOU CAN GET THEM AT GNC, MAKE SURE YOU GET ONE THAT WEIGHS IN GRAMS.
b) save grocery sacks or get a lunch box and put a full three meals or so in there, lots of chicken, jerky, tuna, those are gonna be the staples of your diet

6) Don't drink more than two protein shakes a day, there are liquid and don't have the thermic effect normal food does, normal food should make up 95% of your diet, though a shake after workout or in a pinch is perfectly fine

that should get you started, i'm sure you'll still have questions so just keep posting and i'll help you however i can, i'll be in austin though for the next couple days for a state competition, though i'll try to get on at the hotel if you post and answer when i can, here's the diet i'm on to model after

Meal 1 - 5 egg whites (cal 80, pro18), Oats 80g (cal295 carb51 pro12 fat5), 1scoop whey (cal112, carb2.5, pro23, fat1.5). sprinkle cinnamon. TOTALS - Cal 485, carbs 53 pro 50, Fat 6.5

WORKOUT

PWO - 2 scoop whey (cal224, carb5, pro46, fat3), WMS 80g (cal280 carb68) TOTALS – Cal519, carbs73, pro58 fat 3

PPWO - Tuna 1/2 tin (cal 72,carb0 pro15 ), Oats 80g (cal295 carb51 pro12 fat4) 1scoop whey (cal112, carb2.5, pro23, fat1.5) TOTALS – cal480 carbs53 pro50 fat5.5

meal 4 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) Coconut Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Meal 5 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) Flax Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Meal 6 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) hemp Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Before Bed – Lean Mince200g (cal328 pro51 fat12) TOTALS cal328 pro51 fat12

DAILY TOTAL Cal 2928Carbs 179 Protein 360 fat 68.5

Each chicken meal served with a handful of fibrous green veg bringing carbs to approx 200g per day in total.

DIET 2

Macros: Food/Calories/Protein-Carbs-Fat

Meal 1: 60g Oatmeal/225cal/8gP-41gC-2gF
turkey (99/1)/260/54gP-0gC-3gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 2: 40g Oatmeal/150cal/5gP-27gC-1.5gF
turkey (99/1)/260/54gP-0gC-3gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 3: 40g Oatmeal/150cal/5gP-27gC-1.5gF
beef (96/4)/300/50gP-0gC-8gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 4: 10mL flax oil 90cal/0gP-0gC-10gF
beef (96/4)/300/50gP-0gC-8gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 5: 10mL fish oil 90cal/0gP-0gC-10gF
Tuna 170cal/42gP-0gC-0gF
3.5 Tbsp Mayo light 70/0gP-4gC-5gF

Meal 6: Tuna 170cal/42gP-0gC-0gF
3.5 Tbsp Mayo light 70/0gP-4gC-5gF
beef or turkey 150cal/25gP-0gC-4gF

macros:Calories: 2615
Protein: 335
Carbs: 111
Fats: 74


TEST BEGINNER CYCLE INFO

here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise

Diet

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=143553
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this

1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening

split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains

if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol

btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body

Test Enth
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199827

Dianabol
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199829

Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is

Pheendo's PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

while your at it read this one as well for future cycles

Anthony Roberts PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758


Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....

All You Need To Know About Gyno

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck

[DSM4Life]

ok idk where your tryin to go with the 5'8 5'6 comment
there is such thing as spelling errors prick

You spelled 5'6 wrong ?

[Dukkit]

You spelled 5'6 wrong ?

haha. thats sad

[Phate]

btw, i wasn't trying to be a "prick", i was honestly wondering

[DSM4Life]

*sniff sniff, tear*

this is why i stick to the whore thread. im important there. hahah

(now i have you in the vulnerable stage)

Come here and rest on your head on my shoulder, it'll be ok...

[Kelleh]

I think you need to do alot more research and if a member like dukk gives you advice take it he doesnt have that many posts for no reason.

[Kratos]

206 at 5'6 11% bf is monsterous
I'm gonna say these stats are a little overstated to be polite

[sdprolife]

thanks phate

[Dukkit]

(now i have you in the vulnerable stage)

Come here and rest on your head on my shoulder, it'll be ok...

hmm, you smell good. what is that your wearing. wait, why are you putting your hand down there. my momma said thats my private part!! only i can touch it! FIRE! FIRE!! (you yell fire cuz no one wants to help out a rape victim)

[sdprolife]

my dad got me into working out when i was 12
ive been working out since
like i said im not 5'6 im 5'8 it was an error
it is not overstated
and your oppinion doesnt matter to me
your not the one who gets up and looks in the mirror in my body are you
so i suggest you dont make accusations when you dont know what the **** your talking about

[Dukkit]

I think you need to do alot more research and if a member like dukk gives you advice take it he doesnt have that many posts for no reason.

i like you. lets be friends.

[lex57]

206 at 5'6 11% bf is monsterous
I'm gonna say these stats are a little overstated to be polite

perhaps he mispelled one of them.

[jethro1]

Pics??

[chitownhoker]

206 at 5'6 11% bf is monsterous
I'm gonna say these stats are a little overstated to be polite

i don't think so man, im like 5'-8" at about 13% body fat, and im no where near "monsterous"

[mkrulic]

I'd rethink this. you need a better understanding of nutrition. w/o a decent diet you will not find the gains no mater what you take. how many cals are you taking in? how many grams of protien, carbs and fat? how many meals in one day?

[AdamGH]

my dad got me into working out when i was 12
ive been working out since
like i said im not 5'6 im 5'8 it was an error
it is not overstated
and your oppinion doesnt matter to me
your not the one who gets up and looks in the mirror in my body are you
so i suggest you dont make accusations when you dont know what the **** your talking about

This dude has some temper problems lol. Thats twice now he has made uncalled for remarks. You are lucky people are even helping you with your attitude.

[Flex-Appeal]

hes freaking out on us he forgot to take his meds.

[hockeyguy]

Hey guys you can only do so much to help some people. They come for an opinion and then they get one and freak out on you. Some people!