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    KnowledgeIsPower is offline New Member
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    Arrow First cycle Opinions

    Weeks1-8 300 mgs Test p @ 100mgs Mon,Weds,Fri
    50mg Whinny Ed Mon-Fri

    my goals are to increase lean muscle mass while cutting body fat

    Currently, 25yo 6'4 220lbs 20%bf(i kno its high..whatevr) weight training 3-4yrs.
    Very confident with my Diet & Routine

    However, after endless hours research reading stickys, and opinions im still stuck on pct, I have natural gyno(all my life) and def dont want to make it worse. So this is what I have on hand.

    Nolva 20mg tabs
    Clomid 50mg tabs
    Arimidex .25 tabs
    Hcg 5000iu

    Also have 60 t3 50mgs that id like opinions on doseage and schduling.

    Was planing on Starting Nolva @ 20mg eod while "on" and increasing it to 20mg for 5 wks of pct with 50mg clomid ed. Not decided on how to use the Arimidex and hcg yet.(or T3)
    Thanks to all who respond.
    Last edited by KnowledgeIsPower; 07-23-2008 at 01:15 PM.

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    close... but :

    for 10 weeks :
    test p 100mg every other day
    winny 50mg every day
    (you can try the nolva while on... or arim. at .25 eod too... too bad your gyno prone! juice might be bad!!)

    First day after last shot :

    pct: hcg 500iu every other day till done
    novla 20mg every day, run 3 weeks longer than hcg
    arim .25 every day, run 2 weeks longer than hcg.

    clomid i dont use. i also dont mess with t3. Diet is where its at for fat loss. you can try clen with PCT if you like.

    Thats a better more even dose. Forget the mon/wed/fri
    Last edited by Drummerboy; 07-23-2008 at 02:10 AM.

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    i would eaiter run the test and winny ed or eod, dont take weekends off or your levels will drop. i would take .5mgs of armidex throughout the cycle since you already have gyno then run nolva and armidex for pct. the hcg can be saved for another cycle were it is more needed
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    KnowledgeIsPower is offline New Member
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    Thanks guys def will be goin eod.. proly use the mostly nolva while"on" because there is more around.

    Bump for more opinions/info... Thanks again

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    you're probably better off going ed, and save the nolva for pct so go with the arimidex during cycle

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    def go ED with prop, better gains

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    No reason to run the Winnie with your bodyfat so high, save it til you get to single digit BF%. Even if it does harden you up a touch you will never notice it at your current BF%.

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    ok so how bout saving the winny and using the t3 like

    25mg ed 1st ten days
    50mg ed nxt ten days
    75mg ed nxt ten days
    then back to 50mg for ten
    then 25mg for the last ten

    I could set it so id be done with prop and t3 the same week

    just considering options
    Last edited by KnowledgeIsPower; 07-23-2008 at 02:22 PM.

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    I think you would be much happier going that route.

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