First cycle (Tren only)

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 08:58 PM

I am 6'0 165 pounds , and wondering if its a good ideal to do tren only. I workout 6 days a week and eat right. Any help in this matter would be greatly appercatied,

**Big** · 07-23-2008, 09:00 PM

Welcome.
Let me be the first to say that's an awful cycle, and at your present stats you shouldn't be cycling anyway.
Age?

**inky-e** · 07-23-2008, 09:00 PM

Tren only is great, I would add deca and d-bol throughout, no PCT is neccessary. I"M ONLY KIDDING!!REPEAT KIDDING! You're in the wrong forum, I'm sure someone will move it.

**Big** · 07-23-2008, 09:00 PM

If you're over 5'10" and under 170lbs read this...

**Johnny_Rotten** · 07-23-2008, 09:01 PM

6 foot 165?

Damn dude, you must be hella skinny.

What's your diet look like? & how long have you been lifting?

No way would i recomend Tren for a first cycle, it's a very harsh hormone & could destroy you.

Actually doesn't matter about experience, Tren alone is always a bad idea, good to run test with it.

But i'm curious about your diet bro? You should be able to bulk up naturally if you're only 165.

**Johnny_Rotten** · 07-23-2008, 09:02 PM

Oh it's okay, Big is here.

I don't know what we would do without you big fellar.

**Big** · 07-23-2008, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Johnny_Rotten

Oh it's okay, Big is here.

I don't know what we would do without you big fellar.

Thanks bro, I'm only half here

**Rugger02** · 07-23-2008, 09:06 PM

Hey bro, I would post this in the AAS Q&A Forum, Maybe get the details and MACROS on your diet because "eating right" isn't necessarily "right" (As I've learned.) Post your Diet in the Diet Forum. Take a little time to write a post in detail (Including BMI, work-out routines etc.) and we'd be happy to take our time to review and advise you. Good luck and welcome aboard!

**Big** · 07-23-2008, 09:09 PM

I moved this thread to the appropriate section.

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:10 PM

Bro, Im in the Army and do a lot of cardo, I already have the shit I just want to know how to use it,24 years old

**Rugger02** · 07-23-2008, 09:12 PM

You da man BIG! Off Topic but was your name "Gettin Big" a year ago or so? If so, I'm glad to see u got big!

**Big** · 07-23-2008, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by phily9mill

Bro, Im in the Army and do a lot of cardo, I already have the shit I just want to know how to use it,24 years old

you should have asked before you wasted your money. tren only is a horrible idea and you have no business cycling.
what is your pct?

**Big** · 07-23-2008, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rugger02

You da man BIG! Off Topic but was your name "Gettin Big" a year ago or so? If so, I'm glad to see u got big!

Yep, I changed it, although I'm still not big enough.

**Rugger02** · 07-23-2008, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by phily9mill

Bro, Im in the Army and do a lot of cardo, I already have the shit I just want to know how to use it,24 years old

Read the Stickies, (The top posts in this forum) They're gold. You'll learn a LOT!

**Rugger02** · 07-23-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Yep, I changed it, although I'm still not big enough.

HA And never will be I bet. That's the way it should be. Keep that baby face of yours tho!

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:16 PM

My dude doing to hook me up with a pct not sure what its going to be, I have no ideal about this stuff thats why I here,also it hard as shit to find any gear around here so I have to make do..

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:18 PM

going

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:21 PM

What else should I get with tren and how to use it?

**Rugger02** · 07-23-2008, 09:25 PM

Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Trenbolone Acetate

**testy1975** · 07-23-2008, 09:27 PM

do tren alone good idea ,surrpress the hell out of your natural test. dont do it just listen to what everybody is saying.

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:28 PM

Thanks

**testy1975** · 07-23-2008, 09:29 PM

read and read and read and read then you will learn something.

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:32 PM

So get some test and I should be fine?

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:40 PM

Any recommendation on how I should go buy using tren and what else should i get with it and recommend dose? Please help I read a lot and still no clear cut answer.

**scribbs12** · 07-23-2008, 09:48 PM

how much tren do you even have?>. and is it ace or enth? ... you dont even know your pct?>. your going to have someone else do it for you.. not a good idea... look in the pct forum.. then go find your stuff... dont start a cycle without your whole arsenal ... not a good idea..

**phily9mill** · 07-23-2008, 09:52 PM

100mg and Im not going to start till I have it all, thats why I need to know what all to get and it tren a

**scribbs12** · 07-23-2008, 09:53 PM

you only have 100mg?.. thats only enough for 2 days...

**dugyrios1** · 07-23-2008, 10:56 PM

My first cycle was tren but i was dumb and didnt do much research, but around the 5th week I had to add some test cause my sex drive was very low. But I agree with everyone else you should try to get to your natural best then consider aas. I was 210, 6'1 naturally, then decided to start doing anabolics.

**Dog-Slime** · 07-23-2008, 11:31 PM

Several things wrong with this idea of yours.

Your too small. READ THIS! Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!! Then when your done with that READ THIS UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet... Then when your done with that read em both a few more times cuz you really need to understand this. Trust me I was a "hardgainer" that "needed" steroids to get big, least I thought I was until I really got it in my head that food was all I needed. Now I did learn that I have some kind of super metabolism because I literally have to eat as much food as someone thats 50lbs heavier than me but thats ok I still started making gains naturally.

Tren is literally the WORST steroid you could pick for a 1st cycle for numerous reasons. Its the strongest steroid there is. You can only gain a certain amount of muscle in any given cycle. Your first cycle is always your best. So you could pick a very mild steroid and still have very similiar gains to what you would get off a tren cycle. Its VERY androgenic , you haven't ever tried a mildly androgenic steroid so for all you know your gonna turn into a big bald pimple that gets mad as hell for almost no reason. I would never run tren cuz I have used milder compounds and know that balding would be an issue and that anger would be an issue. Tren causes complete shutdown of natty test. It also raises prolactin. Combine these two features and your dick is not gonna like you one bit.

The reason behind why is an issue of debate but you do get a "tolerance" so to speak. Since tren is the strongest steroid you have no where to go when this starts to happen to you. All you can do is take higher doses of the strongest, most dangerous, worst side-effect causing hormone there is. So if you insist on cycling when you could still gain naturally then do your body a favor and make it a mild compound such as Var, tbol, or test. Test only is the most favored 1st cycle because it needs to be ran with most other compounds to keep the sex drive going, plus it a nice muscle builder but I dont see anything technically wrong with running a mild oral that has keepable gains and only mildly suppresses natty test (var or tbol). If you cant get those buy some h-drol its very similiar to tbol, its mild on the body and on suppression. Its also legal so no reason you cant get it unless the army has some rule against this.

IF YOU INSIST ON CYCLING EVEN THOUGH YOU DONT NEED STEROIDS AT YOUR WEIGHT THEN MAKE IT SOMETHING OTHER THAN TREN. HAVE YOUR PCT GEAR IN YOUR HANDS BEFORE STARTING.

**Drummerboy** · 07-23-2008, 11:42 PM

terrible idea. test only to start. jeeze, talk about jumping into the fire.

**IronReload04** · 07-24-2008, 02:08 AM

ok......I dont think anyone even said this

the whole fact that you want to do tren only, that means you are absolutely clueless and will probably hurt yourself because knowledge wise you are lightyears away from what you need to be to start cycling. ps, i wont be starting for another 3-4 years, and I have already achieved some things naturally.

**thecivilizedanimal** · 07-24-2008, 07:21 AM

1) you're way too skinny
2) you have no idea what you're doing !
3) do not use tren only ! EVER !

you want to use test with tren.

go spend some time reading the q&a threads.

i personally love tren, but you have alot of reading to do before you put any in your body.

you really shouldnt have any questions to ask when your ready to use.

**inky-e** · 07-24-2008, 12:30 PM

Gimme a thousand pushups now! lol

**T_Own** · 07-24-2008, 12:36 PM

best thing for you is to drink it.

**PUMP007** · 07-24-2008, 12:37 PM

Hey can anyone tell me how to start my own thread! Sorry im the new guy

**T_Own** · 07-24-2008, 12:41 PM

go back a page, top left click "New Thread"

**BIG-N-Brazil** · 07-24-2008, 12:50 PM

Don't make the mistake many people including me make. Your first cycle needs to be something simple and you need to get your advice here by reading and using the search function. DOn't listen or depend on your buddy to do it for you. Truse me you will be sorry if you don't take the advice these pro's are giving you. This website is a great tool that i wish i would of had before i started my first cycle. I hope you take advantage of these guys experience and advice.....It will help you in the long run trust me...

**phily9mill** · 07-25-2008, 05:46 PM

OK...Got it, i'm going to put the tren on the back burner for now. And try and find some test. I telling you all I eat 190g of protien a day it dosen't work(a lot of cardio).Can't gain weight. And thank you all for helping me with this issue. And I meet 100cc of tren anyways thanks