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07-24-2008, 12:17 AM #1
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Finally ready for first cycle, request expert critique
After thoroughly researching the most common types of gear and pct as well as checking others' first cycle the following is what Ive decided on:
Week 1-10 400mg test E, 2x/week
11-12 nothing but steady workout&healthy high calorie diet
13-16 .25mg Amiridex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
after that stop everything.
First off, What I expect to see from this is at least 20lbs gain weight, while at least maintaining current bf%
Does anyone have more realistic/accurate estimate on what I should expect? Im just hypothesizing.
Second, is there any other gear I should have onhand just in case?
Third, I just want to get this straight: take the L-dex,Clomid,and Nolva 2weeks after last injection of test e, UNLESS I see symptoms of GYNO, in which case I should then take that stuff as needed, while continuing or reducing the does of test e.
And finally for your reference, here are my stats: 22 y/o, 5'10, 173 lbs, 11-13 bf%
Thanks in advance brothas.
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07-24-2008, 03:08 AM #2
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^^^^
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07-24-2008, 12:43 PM #3
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Anybody have any input? Your starting to hurt my feelings! :tear
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07-24-2008, 12:48 PM #4
it looks pretty good. it wouldn't hurt to stay natural a little longer though, and see where you can get with a strict diet. but its up to you
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07-24-2008, 12:49 PM #5
It may be hard to gain 20 lean pounds while on that cycle but none the less it looks like you have planed out a very good starter cycle. that is almost exactly the pct I use and 400mg of test per week should give good gains. Only use the arimdiex if you feel signs of gyno save the clomid and nolva for pct. Eat lots and enjoy!
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07-24-2008, 12:49 PM #6
Ok bro...stop crying damn!!!..LOl...seems like you have it thought bro...20lbs gain???..maybe but it wont be all muscle so dont be disappointed....your nutrition will determine what GOOD gains you will make...at the weight of 173 you can more than likely put on more natty weight...but thats on you.
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07-24-2008, 12:53 PM #7
Cycle looks good. Assuming you have your diet and training in check then your goal of gaining 20lbs is attainable. I highly doubt you can gain 20+lbs and lower your bf or even maintain the same bf tho which is what it seems like you want to do when you say at least maintain current bf. Really watch out for bloating and/or gyno symptoms since you aren't running an AI throughout.
Oh and on the pct this is just preference but I would only do 50mgs clomid.
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07-24-2008, 01:45 PM #9
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Just out of curiosity, why a 10 week cycle rather than a 12 week? No big deal, like I said.... just curious.
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07-24-2008, 01:48 PM #10
You should be able to put on 20lbs, but your BF will DEFINATELY go up. Other than that, agree with others above that at 173 you could still easily put on some weight naturally before a cycle. You'd be much happier with the results in the long run.
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07-24-2008, 09:08 PM #11
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Sweet thanks for the help. I'll have to wait a few before I can start anything anyway, So I'll kick it up a notch for awhile and if the gains are coming in that way maybe I'll hold off for awhile but lately I've been plateauing so idk. Thanks!
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07-24-2008, 09:22 PM #12
if your still gaining well at week ten keep going, up to 14weeks
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07-25-2008, 05:22 AM #13
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I'll kep that in mind, thanks a lot.
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07-25-2008, 09:24 AM #14
You're good to go, good luck.
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