need some help gettin going!!!

**cza360** · 07-27-2008, 01:00 PM

check it out peeps,... this is my first cycle im 24 y/o with the same strict workouut regimen for the past year im gonna start 200 mgs of test enth @ 12 weeks. when should i inject, where should i inject, and how much per injection?

**Phate** · 07-27-2008, 01:02 PM

well check this out, we need your stats

height
weight
bf%
training exp
diet

**Nitro29** · 07-27-2008, 01:04 PM

200?? Are you serious? And I was just ragging on the guy starting on 250.

Go ahead its your cycle, but I say why bother.

**DEE151** · 07-27-2008, 01:17 PM

go to
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it tells U were to hit at

**cza360** · 07-27-2008, 01:33 PM

i know, im just tryna get the feel of moderate gains, plus i fight in a street leauge i dont wanna get too heavy all at once, im basically looking for a moderate boost in performance...

5'11"
160

train 5 days
no specific caloric intake, but stay away from fried meats

**Nitro29** · 07-27-2008, 01:41 PM

Sounds like your diet could use some work.

**cza360** · 07-27-2008, 01:47 PM

what do you suggest?

**Nitro29** · 07-27-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by cza360

what do you suggest?

I would just do a lot of reading in the diet forum here, there is sonme great info and suggested diets. For me, thats the hardest part of it all, diet.

But to answer your original question, I prefer to inject test in the glutes, you can also use delts. Good luck bro!

**cza360** · 07-27-2008, 02:22 PM

how many days a week, and @ what dose

**JiGGaMaN** · 07-27-2008, 02:25 PM

Right now nothing. I know many people that dont work out and are in better shape than that.

**cza360** · 07-27-2008, 03:29 PM

u dont know what kind of shape im in bro my endurance is crazy and my max on bench is @ 315 without roids im 160 u do the math

**Big** · 07-27-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by cza360

5'11"
160
21-25% bf

Wow bro, you really need to look at diet and training before you consider gear.

**stallion_1** · 07-27-2008, 08:57 PM

then again this why aas are illegal, for newbs like you.
at 25% bf, u dont need test, u need liposuction. lol
now 200 mg/week, what, are u doing hrt??
heck, my first cycle was 50 mg of test suspension a day.

**one8nine** · 07-27-2008, 09:08 PM

lets do some math
200mg test enan-
test enan is 70% test, 30% ester
so you will have 140mg of test per week actual

naturally you produce 10-15mg per day... 70-105ish per week

you wont do anything more than replace your natural test

**one8nine** · 07-27-2008, 09:11 PM

do you realize at 8% body fat if nothing else in your body changed you would weigh 130 at 5'11" ? do the math. and you bench 315?
as a powerlifter, mma fighter, wrestling coach.... no way. i teach/live strength training. no way.

**916casanova** · 07-27-2008, 09:16 PM

I agree bro. Its amazing the difference you feel when you take the right amounts. I tried to low dose at first and save money but you end up wasting it cuz you don't get what you really would doing the proper dose.. As for your bf% yeah it's a little high, even me at 20.6% was high but running tren a with test prop and T3 and diet in check I got down to 16% fast. I'm a trainer and if you pm me I will send you some diet info that I send my clients that helps..

**Nitro29** · 07-27-2008, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

lets do some math
200mg test enan-
test enan is 70% test, 30% ester
so you will have 140mg of test per week actual

naturally you produce 10-15mg per day... 70-105ish per week

you wont do anything more than replace your natural test

Thank you.

**cza360** · 07-28-2008, 04:10 PM

the bodyfat % was wrong guys better yet ill post pics for yall to see

**warchild** · 07-28-2008, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by cza360

u dont know what kind of shape im in bro my endurance is crazy and my max on bench is @ 315 without roids im 160 u do the math

yea sure bro

**cza360** · 07-28-2008, 05:12 PM

like i said bro ...im not too good with the stats, im just a street fighter, not a roid head, in fact ive never taking roids, but anyway heres a pic jugde for urself
like i said...
160 lbs
5'11"
and not sure bout bf%

For anyone who can help me instead of criticize my facts how much "test enth" should i inject per week for the 8 weeks, this is cycle 1 for me...

**916casanova** · 07-28-2008, 05:35 PM

Check the steroid profiles bro. They tell you what the recommended doses are and what everything stacks well with.

PT · 07-28-2008, 05:40 PM

let me first say that i think that you should learn to properly eat then inject but if your going to inject either way then 500mgs of test enth a week shot once or twice a week is a good starting dose

**arenawarrior** · 07-28-2008, 05:42 PM

base is usually 500mg per week 250mg 2x a week. you have not even said anything about PCT. read alot more.. i tried to jump in it thinking oh yeah great easy stuff.. but there is so much to consider
diet
pct
type of pins
and to be honest.. and im sure alot of these guys will agree
( thanks from big, source, and many others)
its about 80% diet and 20% roids/gym to get what you want.

**JiGGaMaN** · 07-28-2008, 06:27 PM

Bodyfat id say 13% at most. Big difference.

**MercyDog** · 07-28-2008, 06:41 PM

nothing wrong with a low dose of test but you'll need some other compounds to work with. Maybe anavar 100-150mg/day throughout that 8 weeks. Or d-bol 50-100mgs. day throughout. If your going to do only test get it around 350week.

Usually when we run a low test dose its simply to compensate something else so we aren't running completely dry when your naturals are shut down.