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    First cycle. Test E. Quick check for me please.

    Gear on hand:
    Test E
    Clomid
    Lethro


    Cycle: Need a lil' help here guys.
    I believe I would like to do an 8 week cycle of Test E (between 400-500mg each week) with a possible Dbol kicker.

    I've done a fair amount of research, but I still have some questions. Constructive advice is welcomed. PCT is my main concern, everyone seems to have multiple outlooks on what should be done and how much should be done, please give me some direction.
    Key questions:
    • Injections: Twice a week? Which days?
    • Dbol kicker: How much ed? and should I run it for weeks 1-4?
    • PCT: How much clomid/lethro ed? and how many weeks?


    Any other info/input is welcomed. Thanks guys.
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    test e should be done for at least 10 weeks.
    with test e, u can get away with pinning twice a week. weekly dose split in half. wednesday and saturday. d-bol can be run for 4 weeks. id say for u at 30 mg/day.
    for pct id do
    first 2 weeks of pct nolva 40 mg clomid 150 a day
    last 2 weeks of pct nolva 20 mg clomd 100 a day

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    Thank you sir. I appreciate the advice/help.

    Edit: You're suggesting a 4 week pct on a 10wk cycle? I apologize for my ignorance, I'm just checking before I jump in this feet first, as I've never done anything like this before.

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    IMO, I would skip the Dbol . Since this is your first cycle, just stay with the Test to monitor how your body reacts to the gear. If you were to use both, and something started going wrong (not saying it would or will) it would be hard to determine which one caused it.

    And yes, at least run it 10 weeks, I would recommend 12, because it will take anywhere from 3 - 6 weeks before you start getting your noticeable results.

    Good luck and BE CAREFUL

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    letro is not good in pct, users report an estrogen spike when its use is discontinued

    500mg wk for 10 weeks is minimum in my eyes, it could take ~4-6 weeks to peak
    dont forget the ester takes 2 weeks to clear
    clomid sucks, it causes emotional sides and ive heared of blurred vision/vision problems

    pct should start week 13
    weeks 13-16 nolvadex 40mg, and either aromasin 50mg or proviron 50mg

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    and as for the people that say skip the dbol - see how you react to test -
    the test takes weeks to kick in so 4-6 weeks dbol 30mg-50mg you wont even feel your test -
    plus when you cut the dbol youll ONLY BE ON TEST for weeks, so during those weeks youll have plenty of time "to see how your body reacts to test alone"

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    by the way, great base to start

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    and as for the people that say skip the dbol - see how you react to test -
    the test takes weeks to kick in so 4-6 weeks dbol 30mg-50mg you wont even feel your test -
    plus when you cut the dbol youll ONLY BE ON TEST for weeks, so during those weeks youll have plenty of time "to see how your body reacts to test alone"
    ^^^This is a good point. Like I said Fireplug, that was only my opinion, but one8nine's statement makes perfect sense.

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    test does NOT have to be run for 10 weeks. My runs are 6-8weeks long and my gains are great. Ive never had problems recovering and Ive been running cycles for 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic View Post
    test does NOT have to be run for 10 weeks. My runs are 6-8weeks long and my gains are great. Ive never had problems recovering and Ive been running cycles for 5 years.
    what ester? test p sure but test e you hardly get to enjoy the peak

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    what ester? test p sure but test e you hardly get to enjoy the peak
    test d, test e, sust whatever. comes down to how quick you respond and how quick your gains plateu. I react quick and see my gains start to taper around week 6.

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    better get another bottle bro one's not enough

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    Thank you guys. I really appreciate the helpful advice. I'll ditch the lethro and go with the afore mentioned pct. Do you think I should run 400 or 500 of test e?

    Also, what's your opinion on HCG after cycle?

    Thanks,
    Fireplug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireplug240 View Post
    Thank you guys. I really appreciate the helpful advice. I'll ditch the lethro and go with the afore mentioned pct. Do you think I should run 400 or 500 of test e?

    Also, what's your opinion on HCG after cycle?

    Thanks,
    Fireplug
    I ran 250mg/week on my first run. good results. If youre going to run the d Id say stick to 400mg/week for 8 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireplug240 View Post
    Thank you guys. I really appreciate the helpful advice. I'll ditch the lethro and go with the afore mentioned pct. Do you think I should run 400 or 500 of test e?

    Also, what's your opinion on HCG after cycle?

    Thanks,
    Fireplug
    go for 500mg imo
    250mg 2x a week monday/thursday or tuesday/friday etc...

    hcg is great
    i do 500iu e3d starting 2 weeks before pct, used 4 weeks total. its really something extra thats great you dont need it but if you got the cash then its a great tool

    letro is great to fight side effects on cycle, keep it around for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic View Post
    test d, test e, sust whatever. comes down to how quick you respond and how quick your gains plateu. I react quick and see my gains start to taper around week 6.
    thats really great im glad that works for you man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal View Post
    better get another bottle bro one's not enough
    Yeah, I know. That's not a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    hcg is great
    i do 500iu e3d starting 2 weeks before pct, used 4 weeks total. its really something extra thats great you dont need it but if you got the cash then its a great tool
    Yeah I have the money, just getting ahold of it is a different story. I was just curious though, thanks!
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