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    1st cycle but open minded for any suggestions!

    I'm going onto my Sophmore year in JUCO football and wrestling and am about to jump on a cycle here pre-season as well as in-season and was wondering what you guys had for any information or any guidance for this is my first cycle I'm going to run. I've been reading this forum and reading books pretty heavily for about a year and a half now, so now I think it's my turn to start using! What I'm looking to do is to give me that "EDGE" on the field and cut some more BF% as well as have some very good strength gains if possible!

    My Stats
    6' 3'' 285lbs
    I'm 17% BF on arms 16% BF on Legs and 19% BF on Stomach
    I know you guys are going to say diet diet diet but I'm a big heavyweight and Defensive Tackle, and if you can find a handful of people like me with the same % BF I'd like to ask them how they did it for it's been a long road for me!

    My Diet (That I follow very strictly and abide by every day! No "cheating days" or "drinking day" for me!

    3800-4000 calories a day
    400 grams of protein a day
    400 grams of carbs a day
    85 grams of good fats a day

    My Cycle
    Test Prop 1-12 250mgs EOD
    Tren Enanthate 1-12 500mgs 2xWK
    Var-80mg-100 mgs ed

    PCT I was thinking on running Nolvadex and proviron, that seems like the best PCT for this cycle, but please guide me elsewhere if I'm wrong!?!
    Last edited by AugsLars12; 07-29-2008 at 03:29 AM.

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    Prop and tren (assuming you mean acetate and not enanthate) need to be shot at least every other day.

    Also "1ml" isn't a dose.

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    Changed the dose I'm sorry, what do you recommend on a does for every other day? Does my Cycle look alright? Other then my mess up dose everything look to be in the right mindset and a good cycle?
    Last edited by AugsLars12; 07-29-2008 at 03:13 AM.

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    Thanks for the fast response BTW your help is MUCH APPRECIATED!

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    Well your doses are a tad on the high side, but then again you're a big guy.

    Most people do 100-200mg prop EOD. The tren, since it is the enan ester can be shot twice a week.

    As far as PCT, tren shuts down some people pretty hard. You might consider running some HCG throughout the cycle and/or during your PCT.

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    i would stick with a simple 10-12 week cycle of 500mgs test a week and maybe jumpstart it with 5 weeks of var. nolva and proviron will make a good pct. proviron is one of my favorite drugs but it hard for alot of people to get and expensive
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    Thanks for the timely responses, as far as my cycle goes would 250mgs of prop EOD be ideal or is that still to high?

    PT, if I where to jumpstart my cycle with var for 5 weeks, how many mgs would you suggest? I'm assuming its still going to be ED correct? Do you think stacking TREN with both of these is too much or what is your reasoning on leaving it out?

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    Yeah dude that's way too high. Try 150mg EOD. The average male produces something like 50mg of testosterone a week. 150mg EOD comes out to a little over ten times that... so yeah you should be able to grow from that.

    People usually run Anavar in the neighborhood of 50mg/day. And yes, Anavar has a 9 hour half-life, so you'll want to split the dose throughout the day to try and maintain a steady level.

    Lots of people think that someone's first cycle should be test only to see how they react to it.

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    im on the same test cycle, with a little d-bol, what should we be taking during cycle? arimidex or nolva, and how much, ive had my second injection and it already feels like i have no manhood, whys that?

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    Since this is your first cycle, STAY AWAY from Tren for now. Test alone will yield great results. I'm on Tren for the 4th time and now I know why I keep saying I will never touch the stuff again!!! I would also shoot the Prop ED between 50/75mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad1185 View Post
    im on the same test cycle, with a little d-bol, what should we be taking during cycle? arimidex or nolva, and how much, ive had my second injection and it already feels like i have no manhood, whys that?
    Are you taking tren? If so you should either lower your tren dose or raise your test dose.

    Ancillaries will depend on whether or not you're running tren.

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    It is real hard to do physical sports on tren. I can barley do cardio when i am on tren. Something to think about since you will be running alot..

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    Ok so the verdict is to stay away from Tren until off-season, what kind of cycle would help/give me that "edge" I'm looking for and boost or help or not affect my cardiovascular system?

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    Stick with Test E. 500mg a week maybe a bit more maybe up to 600 a week twice a week at 250-300 per shot ( 2x * 250) you could use var or proviron like AR said to cut out your BF since they stack with Test Really well.

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    A test/boldenone cycle might suit you well. Boldenone will actually increase your cardiovascular capacity.

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    For a first cycle
    500mg test e 2x a week.

    I don't recommend anything other than that for a first cycle but im sure your going to do whatever you have on hand.

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