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    Newbie doing some research

    hey guys, im researching for a first cycle of test e. Is front loading not recommended for the first cycle? ive read through the tutorials, and frontloading for the long based esters makes sense, since you get more total weeks with the effects, but it doesnt seem like many people are doing it. is this considered an advanced technique or something?

    also, ive done 4 cycles of prohormones over the past 3 years. 2 cycles of SD and 2 of havoc/epistane. I know many people say dbol is not recommended for a first cycle, because you dont know how its going to interact. i read somewhere that someone else was going to use SD as a kicker, and i already have some havoc. so, since i already know havoc doesnt mess me up, would you recommend that i use that as a kicker... since i already have it? or is it best to run test solo anyways?

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    I didnt front load my first cycle but I did use dbol at 40mg daily for 4 weeks. I dont think mixing pro-homones with steroids is the best idea personally but im not really for any pro-hormone use. Take the Test E for 12 weeks and use the dbol if you want but leave the pro hormones out of it thats just my opinion.

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    Yeah test e 12 weeks + d-bol is ok, although I would frontload the test, thats just my preferance.

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    i would not frontload on a first cycle. just my opinion tho. how many mg a week are you planning on running and for how long?

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    How many mgs of test will you be using?

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    i don't believe in frontloading, its old like pyramiding w/o pct. if you want a jumpstart take d-bol

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    ive got 25mL of test e @ 200mg/mL

    so, no one thinks taking the havoc is a good idea?
    i have enough to either do 10 weeks at 500mg split in two, or 12 weeks at 400mg using split doses... or i could front load the first week, and then go for 11 weeks total.

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    frontloading is great, but not for you. If your new to aas your gonna wish you didn't frontload, the flu is a bitch

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    ...the flu???

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    test flu...it will last about a week and you'll feel like you have the flu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrodinger View Post
    hey guys, im researching for a first cycle of test e. Is front loading not recommended for the first cycle? ive read through the tutorials, and frontloading for the long based esters makes sense, since you get more total weeks with the effects, but it doesnt seem like many people are doing it. is this considered an advanced technique or something?

    also, ive done 4 cycles of prohormones over the past 3 years. 2 cycles of SD and 2 of havoc/epistane. I know many people say dbol is not recommended for a first cycle, because you dont know how its going to interact. i read somewhere that someone else was going to use SD as a kicker, and i already have some havoc. so, since i already know havoc doesnt mess me up, would you recommend that i use that as a kicker... since i already have it? or is it best to run test solo anyways?

    age:25
    height:5'10"
    weight:190
    been lifting for 8-10 years, with a solid routine for the last 5
    kickstarting a first cycle with dbol is fine
    because when you cut the dbol, youll have plenty of time to see how you react to test without it

    what do you know about pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrodinger View Post
    ive got 25mL of test e @ 200mg/mL

    so, no one thinks taking the havoc is a good idea?
    i have enough to either do 10 weeks at 500mg split in two, or 12 weeks at 400mg using split doses... or i could front load the first week, and then go for 11 weeks total.
    10 weeks

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    ive been focusing my research primarily on pct, lately, because im getting ready to pick up the supplies. i guess the more i look into it the more im getting confused though.

    i was planning on doing the exact pct in the newbie educational threads, using arimedex and nolva on cycle, and then adding clomid for the pct. now, ive read that its outdated: clomid sucks, letro is better than arimedex, and its better just to keep the stuff on hand during cycle, because it can inhibit gains. so im planning on picking up nolva and letro. do you think i need clomid?

    this may be a dumb question, but do you guys ever keep cialis on hand during pct. im not sure how bad ill be shut down after this is all said and done. besides, if the wood on cycle is as good as everyone says, id hate to start disappointing when i come off.

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