The perfect stack if money was no object?

**CygonX** · 08-01-2008, 12:30 PM

I just finished a cycle of Prohormones, and although I made great gains, the general consensus is that the cycle was a bit too hard on the liver. I am going to run my PCT and stay clean for awhile, then get started again. I am planning my next cycle without the orals this time.

I have read a wide variety of opinions on what steroid is the best, but the “reviews” seem to be tainted by phrase “for the money”. Fortunately, that’s not really an issue for me. I am not really too terribly concerned about the sides (especially if they are not permanent). Honestly if I lose any more hair I am going to shave my damn head anyway. And fat loss isn’t an issue either, as I can stick to a diet of almost all supplements and meal replacements.

So I am considering Testosterone Enanthate and Nandrolone stack, but if money was not an object, would this be the perfect stack for my goals? And what supplements would you take with it?

**mkrulic** · 08-01-2008, 12:40 PM

age and stats

**N*E*R*D** · 08-01-2008, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by CygonX

I just finished a cycle of Prohormones, and although I made great gains, the general consensus is that the cycle was a bit too hard on the liver. I am going to run my PCT and stay clean for awhile, then get started again. I am planning my next cycle without the orals this time.

I have read a wide variety of opinions on what steroid is the best, but the “reviews” seem to be tainted by phrase “for the money”. Fortunately, that’s not really an issue for me. I am not really too terribly concerned about the sides (especially if they are not permanent). Honestly if I lose any more hair I am going to shave my damn head anyway. And fat loss isn’t an issue either, as I can stick to a diet of almost all supplements and meal replacements.

So I am considering Testosterone Enanthate and Nandrolone stack, but if money was not an object, would this be the perfect stack for my goals? And what supplements would you take with it?

it might be if you told us your goals. what are they bro? and your stats?

**legobricks** · 08-01-2008, 12:52 PM

Stats please.

And for a first cycle, 1 compound is plenty enough to grow.

**CygonX** · 08-01-2008, 01:03 PM

I am currently 35 years old, very experienced in weight training and supplements in general, but I sat on my ass for a few years and I am just getting back into weight training.

Previous to my last cycle I was 240 lbs at 28% body fat, two months later (now) I am 220lbs at 15% body fat, with a significant increase in lean muscle mass.

I am 6' 1" fairly large frame, apparently good genetics, I make gains easily and lose fat fairly quickly...to the point my wife hates me for it

Here is the cycle I ran for 6 weeks to lose the fat and add the muscle, and yes I know it was a stupid amount of prohoromones, and the liver damage it could have done. I didn't do enough research before I started, but fortunately my liver seems intact.

Estra-4 9-Diene-3 17-Dione
2a 17a-Dimethyl-5-Androst-3-One
2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyletioallocholanol
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol (Halodrol-50)
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one (Superdrol)
2-ene 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol (Phera-Plex)
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol;
2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol

Basically a Cycle of E-Pol/Decabolen/Testanate50 with “Liver Care” and occasional Test Gel use.

My flat bench max is currently 250 or so, and I'd really like to get 315 lbs sooner rather than later

**mkrulic** · 08-01-2008, 01:06 PM

So you went from 67lbs of fat and a lean weight of 172 to 33 lbs of fat w/ a lean weight of 187. Id be pretty happy w/ this.

**mkrulic** · 08-01-2008, 01:07 PM

test e @500mg/week for 10 weeks would be sufficient

**CygonX** · 08-01-2008, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

test e @500mg/week for 10 weeks would be sufficient

With nothing else with it, no nand? And only 500 not 800?

**abbot138** · 08-01-2008, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by CygonX

I just finished a cycle of Prohormones, and although I made great gains, the general consensus is that the cycle was a bit too hard on the liver. I am going to run my PCT and stay clean for awhile, then get started again. I am planning my next cycle without the orals this time.

I have read a wide variety of opinions on what steroid is the best, but the “reviews” seem to be tainted by phrase “for the money”. Fortunately, that’s not really an issue for me. I am not really too terribly concerned about the sides (especially if they are not permanent). Honestly if I lose any more hair I am going to shave my damn head anyway. And fat loss isn’t an issue either, as I can stick to a diet of almost all supplements and meal replacements.
So I am considering Testosterone Enanthate and Nandrolone stack, but if money was not an object, would this be the perfect stack for my goals? And what supplements would you take with it?

This is the part of the thread that Im not feeling, but I dont wanna turn this into a diet discussion.....Test only for a first cycle, with a GOOD DIET will give you very satisfactory results.

**CygonX** · 08-01-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by abbot138

This is the part of the thread that Im not feeling, but I dont wanna turn this into a diet discussion.....Test only for a first cycle, with a GOOD DIET will give you very satisfactory results.

Yes, the diet part is obvious, I mean why not stack the Test with Nandrolone , Winstrol , or etc.?

**roid_rage** · 08-01-2008, 03:05 PM

'cause if anything goes bad, you will not know what drug to blame... Not to mention that if it is your first cycle, 500 mg of test should do the job...

**MercyDog** · 08-01-2008, 04:26 PM

yes deca and test go good together 500t/300d week

**CygonX** · 08-01-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by roid_rage

'cause if anything goes bad, you will not know what drug to blame... Not to mention that if it is your first cycle, 500 mg of test should do the job...

Ah ha, that makes good sense, glad i asked