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    want to know before i start my next cycle

    this will be my first cycle having vials rather than ampules. I was doing one ampule of sustanon per week on my other cycles. i have several questions that play into what i'm wishing to know.

    I have a vial each of test prop @100mg per ml and trenbolone acetate@ 75mg per ml.

    i wish to know what is the proper dosage of each i need per week (im aware of the test needing be injected every 2 - 3 days and the tren once a week unless other suggestions are made) and I have not been able to find any information stating how many ML there are to a vial of each.

    Depending on what dosage I need per week (or per injection of either however x per week etc), considering that I am going on an 8-10 week cycle, do I have enough of each to do so? If not, how many vials do I need to complete the cycle? if i simply do not have enough to do my cycle properly ill wait untill i have enough.

    any help, suggestions and chastising would be appreciated.

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    age?
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    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
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    pct knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    cycle experience?
    pct knowledge?
    6ft 5in
    395lb
    25%
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    dunno what pct knowledge means plz elaborate

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    395lbs???
    well you need to diet and cardio until you get your body fat under control, cycling now is asking for problems.
    pct is post cycle therapy , you MUST understand that before you cycle.

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    Go to the pct threads. How old are you? Maybe you should read more on this forum before you start and cut some of that bf off......without the cycle

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    damn big already got it all covered =)

    you need to be 12% before you cycle
    high bf% = high side effects

    post your diet here and read the stickies
    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

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    Well that kind of makes my post useless....LOL Beat me to it

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    LMAO Got you to hahahahahaha

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    diet and cardio is and has been in place. 4 years ago i weighed in @ 535lbs. post cycle therapy didnt understand the acronym. of course i use a estrogen suppresant and 4 weeks before im due to be done i start with pct with the test to last a little longer than the tren then use nolvadex , HCG , and clomid pending whats available hence me planning and asking advice before i begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldheadedlifter View Post
    diet and cardio is and has been in place. 4 years ago i weighed in @ 535lbs. post cycle therapy didnt understand the acronym. of course i use a estrogen suppresant and 4 weeks before im due to be done i start with pct with the test to last a little longer than the tren then use nolvadex, HCG, and clomid pending whats available hence me planning and asking advice before i begin.
    you start pct when???
    regardless, you're carrying almost 100lbs of fat. Steroids are dangerous and certainly not in order for your condition.

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    tren ace is eod or better yet ed, not once a week.

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    I think your BF if fine no matter what it is.........you have to abide by some rules though

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    I think your BF if fine no matter what it is.........you have to abide by some rules though
    you think his bf is fine no matter what it is? he's carrying almost 100lbs of pure fat. heart attack territory. your advice often ranges from questionable to bad, why are you here again?

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    Ya I thought all these prof posted it was suppost to be around 15%

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersLTW View Post
    Ya I thought all these prof posted it was suppost to be around 15%
    yeah, that's only people who know wtf they are talking about who say that lol.

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    Hey watch what you say know cause I don't want ppl thinking that. Remeber I ask you for advice, so technically I have just commited plagirism LOL

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    I guess I could be wrong but if fat raises estrogen and estrogen lowers natural testosterone , than why is it not a practice to up the testosterone while treating the conversion of estrogen or even blocking it. I've always felt that a higher testosterone to estrogen ratio can achieve a higher degree of burning fat and contribute to lean muscle mass. I can except being wrong but I'd like to know why because I haven't found a read that contradicts this. I've also witnessed people who had success getting back into shape with testosterone while loosing fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    I guess I could be wrong but if fat raises estrogen and estrogen lowers natural testosterone, than why is it not a practice to up the testosterone while treating the conversion of estrogen or even blocking it. I've always felt that a higher testosterone to estrogen ratio can achieve a higher degree of burning fat and contribute to lean muscle mass. I can except being wrong but I'd like to know why because I haven't found a read that contradicts this. I've also witnessed people who had success getting back into shape with testosterone while loosing fat.
    {shakes head in shame}
    I'm not even going to take the time to explain it to you in detail. Take someone who is carrying 100lbs of fat, and with no regard for blood pressure or any other associated health risks you think cycling is fine. But then you don't think pct is necessary after a suppressive cycle either depending on which of your posts you read. You really should read more and post less.

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    You are considering the use of unhealthy fat? The whole idea I thought was to use lean mass, which is fat that is used more readily. Rather than this guys stored fat that he has been dragging around for years. I really do not see a guy that big being in good enough shape sucking down something that is prone for high bp

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    Dam it big! I am going to get me some satellite internet. It is on, I type like a chicken eating corn and here you go with your freakin 1000wpm and ruin everything. LMAO J/K

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    Question First timer, please suggest...

    Thank you for reading my post.

    age? 27
    height? 5'10"
    weight? 135 pound
    body fat%? 15%
    years training? 1
    cycle experience? 0
    pct knowledge? 0

    I have spent hours on this website but still not finding anyone who looks like my condition.

    Please suggest the starting component EDITED

    Thank you very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16738177 View Post
    Thank you for reading my post.

    age? 27
    height? 5'10"
    weight? 135 pound
    body fat%? 15%
    years training? 1
    cycle experience? 0
    pct knowledge? 0

    I have spent hours on this website but still not finding anyone who looks like my condition.

    Please suggest the starting component EDITED

    Thank you very much.
    start your own thread, and eat while you're doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    {shakes head in shame}
    I'm not even going to take the time to explain it to you in detail. Take someone who is carrying 100lbs of fat, and with no regard for blood pressure or any other associated health risks you think cycling is fine. But then you don't think pct is necessary after a suppressive cycle either depending on which of your posts you read. You really should read more and post less.
    not to mention bf% is a clear indication of how one eats
    bad diet, no cycle
    diet comes first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    start your own thread, and eat while you're doing it.

    There is no freaking way you can be 5'10, 135 lbs. and 15% bf. Are you high right now?
    Last edited by Gym Freak; 08-03-2008 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16738177 View Post
    Thank you for reading my post.

    age? 27
    height? 5'10"
    weight? 135 pound
    body fat%? 15%
    years training? 1
    cycle experience? 0
    pct knowledge? 0

    I have spent hours on this website but still not finding anyone who looks like my condition.

    Please suggest the starting component EDITED

    Thank you very much.



    There is no way you can be 5'10, 135 lbs., at 15% bf. Are you high right now?

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