short esterfied injectables

[gr8TEST1]

first off i wanted to say that this site is extremely informative and there are many educated people on this site...so im gonna thank u all in advance for ur educated reply's..here it is.......

my stats for starters
30 yrs old
5 190 pounds
bf at 8 %
cycling xperience with mostly longer esterfied injectables like deca enanthate primobolan anavar, cypionate...(i tried prop b4 and sus and from the 1st shot they gave me a quick spike of a high grade fever and i felt that it just didnt agre with me, but im ready to man up to it and reap the rewards of fast acting esters).....
my goal is as always, so stay thick while maintainingan aesthetically pleasing body with gr8 musculature. i have gr8 genetics and have gotten very far with just long esteried injectables, sound sleep, intense tr8ng and great nutrition...time to move on, so i planned this,

weeks 1-8 NPP 75 mgs ed for ( 375 mgs ew).-19 nor
1-10 prop at 100 mgs ed (500 mgs ew) test
1-10 var at 40 mgs ed- mild dht to prevent the aggravation of mpb

quick questions,
i fully understand that hcg is ran with extensively longer cycles than 12 weeki standard ones, also, it's ran with heavy 19 nors like tren and deca tp make recovery of your HPTA a hell of alot easier so ur nuts dont shrink at all or as bad, but with NPP in my cycle, would it be wise to use the hcg, and if so, when? my guess is 3 days after last prop injection??? and at what dosage and how many weeks??

also, i have read about using nolva and adex in tandem about the cancellation of the adex's effectiveness when used in harmony from one8nine,(educated man btw, by far). since all i have on hand from awhile ago is clomid, nolva and adex, i understand that you need to run 1mg of adex along with nolva instead of .25 mgs eod to compensate for the loss of its effectiveness. but how wud the pct be layed out if any 1 cud reply to me. weeks, and dosages...

last question, i have hgh and am getting igf 1 for pct. i wasnt sure how long i cud use hgh for pct and igf 1. if sum experienced members cud provide me with a layout of the cycling foundation based on what i mentioned earlier along with pct consisiting of nolva adex or clomid since i already got it, hgh and igf 1 and id gr8tly appreciate...

also have duta i take ed to maintain good hairline.....

thankx guys for all ur help.

cheers

[gr8TEST1]

5 foot nine...my error and bad

[gr8TEST1]

wow,

2 daqys and no replys, LOL...i know my avatar says gr8test1 but even I cud use some constructive advice from experienced users....

[gr8TEST1]

wow,

2 days and no replys, LOL...i know my avatar says gr8test1 but even I cud use some constructive advice from experienced users....

[one8nine]

my stats for starters
30 yrs old
5 190 pounds
bf at 8 %

good place to cycle bro good job

cycling xperience with mostly longer esterfied injectables like deca enanthate primobolan anavar, cypionate...(i tried prop b4 and sus and from the 1st shot they gave me a quick spike of a high grade fever and i felt that it just didnt agre with me, but im ready to man up to it and reap the rewards of fast acting esters).....

good job, bro fast esters are great. by the way, anavar is 17aa... its an oral its not even esterfied...

weeks 1-8 NPP 75 mgs ed for ( 375 mgs ew).-19 nor
1-10 prop at 100 mgs ed (500 mgs ew) test
1-10 var at 40 mgs ed- mild dht to prevent the aggravation of mpb

i love the cycle. maybe keep letro on hand incase of sides. have you thought of tren instead of npp?

quick questions,
i fully understand that hcg is ran with extensively longer cycles than 12 weeki standard ones, also, it's ran with heavy 19 nors like tren and deca tp make recovery of your HPTA a hell of alot easier so ur nuts dont shrink at all or as bad, but with NPP in my cycle, would it be wise to use the hcg, and if so, when? my guess is 3 days after last prop injection??? and at what dosage and how many weeks??

yes use hcg
use it a totl of 4 weeks. ast 2 weeks of cycle and first 2 weeks of pct.
9-12: hcg 500iu 2x a week

also, i have read about using nolva and adex in tandem about the cancellation of the adex's effectiveness when used in harmony from one8nine,(educated man btw, by far). since all i have on hand from awhile ago is clomid, nolva and adex, i understand that you need to run 1mg of adex along with nolva instead of .25 mgs eod to compensate for the loss of its effectiveness. but how wud the pct be layed out if any 1 cud reply to me. weeks, and dosages...

11-14:
nolva 20mg ed
clomid 25mg ed
arimidex 1mg ed
not the ideal pct but the best thing you can do with what you have.

last question, i have hgh and am getting igf 1 for pct. i wasnt sure how long i cud use hgh for pct and igf 1. if sum experienced members cud provide me with a layout of the cycling foundation based on what i mentioned earlier along with pct consisiting of nolva adex or clomid since i already got it, hgh and igf 1 and id gr8tly appreciate...

also have duta i take ed to maintain good hairline.....

thankx guys for all ur help.

cheers

sorry cany help wth these

[gr8TEST1]

thankx man. appreciate comments on your part..to answer ur question about tren, i think about it every day but since im predisposed to mpb, and tren rates a 500 on the anaboloic/androgenic ratio...its extremely hard on the harline...so i decided to compensate that 19 nor for npp. i already had 4 hairtransplants and am really feeling that tren wud make it a 5th and 6th, lolol...

[one8nine]

thankx man. appreciate comments on your part..to answer ur question about tren, i think about it every day but since im predisposed to mpb, and tren rates a 500 on the anaboloic/androgenic ratio...its extremely hard on the harline...so i decided to compensate that 19 nor for npp. i already had 4 hairtransplants and am really feeling that tren wud make it a 5th and 6th, lolol...

sure man good choice then, nothing wrong with npp i just like tren more but with a reason like that npp is golden

[gr8TEST1]

thank again man. u know, i read alot of ur responses to many uneducated threads, in conjunction with educated questions and i really have to say..you possess excellent knowledge and good diversity between chemicals, nutrition and so forth. thankx again man for all ur advice.
p.s. i think i may be replacing clomid with aramosin. if so, same layout for aramosin as aforementioned above. hows about dosage, and since proviron is a dht, do you think it wud exasserbate mpb since its a dht. not sure if its a mild dht like var wud be in terms of expediting hairloss...
and if u think i cud get away with it, i know u value proviron in ur pct, ill just check out ur pct layout and try to replicate it best as i cud...im trying to grab a hold of either aramosin or proviron. what wud u reccomend over the other as we weigh in the hairloss factor and ill leave you off on this last question????

thankx again one 8nine..HATER OF SUS..haha.luv it

[legobricks]

time to move on, so i planned this,

weeks 1-8 NPP 75 mgs ed for ( 375 mgs ew).-19 nor
1-10 prop at 100 mgs ed (500 mgs ew) test
1-10 var at 40 mgs ed- mild dht to prevent the aggravation of mpb

IF your injecting NPP 75mg ED then that would be 525mg per week not 375mg. Also prop 100mg ED is 700mg per week not 500mg. From your math it seems that you are inejcting only 5 days a week and taking 2 off days from injections. This is wrong.

Inject ED with no off days or inject EOD in order to maintain stable blood levels.

[gr8TEST1]

what if i did a little over a ml eod for both products. say npp 75 per ml at a ml and 1/2 eod and same for prop... i was originally going with the five days of npp and 5 days of prop so i didnt over load on test if u cud understand my problem mentioned above.

but for stability in blood level purposes, i cud try it as i said just now. i really didnt think that 2 days off after injecting for 5 str8 would of made a world of difference..whats your thoghts on this and my adjustment to these dosages??

[gr8TEST1]

btw, prop would be bout 150 mgs eod since im applying same math with the npp. the prop is 100 mgs per/ml..and i wud shoot 1ml and 1/2 eod.

[one8nine]

IF your injecting NPP 75mg ED then that would be 525mg per week not 375mg. Also prop 100mg ED is 700mg per week not 500mg. From your math it seems that you are inejcting only 5 days a week and taking 2 off days from injections. This is wrong.

Inject ED with no off days or inject EOD in order to maintain stable blood levels.

holy crap good catch!

[one8nine]

how about 3/4 ml each ed???
please go ed

[gr8TEST1]

niceee one right one8... what cud i say...ur knowledge is an SHOULD be an inspiration to all of us to wanna use our brains for more than a hatrack, haha

anyways, if i do 3/4 per ml of NPP dosed at 75 mgs per/ml, a rough GUESStimate would be what, 65 mgs per/ml times 7 days per week would be 455 mgs per week of NPP. Correct me if Im wrong here cause in my h.s.s days i spent more time reading up on paul borrensen and anabolic reviews than actual math here, LOL....

id do the same dosaging for the prop. its dosed at 100 mgs per/ml.....

what do u think bro??

[Jfew44]

niceee one right one8... what cud i say...ur knowledge is an SHOULD be an inspiration to all of us to wanna use our brains for more than a hatrack, haha

anyways, if i do 3/4 per ml of NPP dosed at 75 mgs per/ml, a rough GUESStimate would be what, 65 mgs per/ml times 7 days per week would be 455 mgs per week of NPP. Correct me if Im wrong here cause in my h.s.s days i spent more time reading up on paul borrensen and anabolic reviews than actual math here, LOL....

id do the same dosaging for the prop. its dosed at 100 mgs per/ml.....

what do u think bro??

It would be about 400mgs a week of NPP if done in 3/4 ml ed. If prop was done 3/4 ml ed it would come out to about 525mgs a week. That seems like the most logical way to go if you want to inject ed, which I would recommend.

[gr8TEST1]

good man jfew. thanks for the correction. like i said, im not the gr8test mathmetician. but thats exactly how i will engage this....

btw, does anyone have a response in regards to using gh and igf 1 thru out post cycle therapy??? meaning dosages, for how long thru pct also??

im not a gh expert, but if i remember in retrospect to a conversation awhile back with an educated user, he had broken it down sumtin like this:

2iu perday=anti-aging
4iu a day=fat loss
6 iu= hypertrophy in musscle tissue. that it sum how divides the number of muscle cells by splitting them into halves a creating a more anabolic environment for the user like i said, I could be DEAD wrong and hold my head down when it comes to gh and igf 1 in revereance to thr experts...

anyone??

[gr8TEST1]

sorry to drag this thread on and on but if sum 1 cud provide the layout in a pct formatted for the cycle at the top with doses and weeks of usage with gh and igf1

thanks again guys in advance

cheers fellas