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    lump behind nipple

    im currently 3 weeks into my trenA test prop cycle, and i got a lump behind my nipple, i got clomid and tamoxafen on hand, a friend told me to take 2 clomid tablets a day for 5 days then 1 a day for another 5 days to get rid of the lump is this true or should i take the tamoxafen instead, will these effect my cycle, what do u recommend guys.
    i pretty sure i read that if u take tamoxafen to get rid of gyno it just makes it worse, is this true?
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    tamox can make gyno caused by PgR worse, so you should avoid it if you take any 19nors. You need to get your hands on an Ai and some caber or bromo.

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    so the clomid advice ant very good advice.

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    i used letro after i got lumps from tren . i cant take 19nors anymore cuz im too sensitive. i ran it at 1.25mgs for around 6 weeks but i had fairly large lumps.

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    If it was me I would take clomid until you get letro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DS21 View Post
    If it was me I would take clomid until you get letro.
    i could be wrong but..
    since nolva is bad with 19nors i think clomid would be too they are both serms

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    i could be wrong but..
    since nolva is bad with 19nors i think clomid would be too they are both serms
    i was thinkin that. an AI is needed i thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    i could be wrong but..
    since nolva is bad with 19nors i think clomid would be too they are both serms
    The profile on clomid dosen't say anything about it makeing progesterone gyno worse, but it is possible. My first tren cycle will be shortly and I will use letro. If I was in his shoes I would try the clomid and if it gets worse he is going to more then likely do gyno reversal either way, maybe it will work?

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    right if i take clomid will it effect my gains from my cycle.

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    I would be more worried about the gyno getting worse, but that is just me.

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    I would also wait to see what the others have to say before trying clomid, I've never used it with tren .

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    you just need to order some letro overnight mail
    also run it with future cycles
    nolva is a HUGE no, ill go ahead and "lump" (he he) clomid in the same category.

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    im only doing a six week cycle so i dont think it could get much much worse in three weeks i hope not anyway.

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    I thought u can not get gyno from tren a, does it not say that in the profile?

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    i got told letro ruins your sex life and dont need that.

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    yes you can get gyno from many things
    tren a stimulates pgr, which can cause gyno
    its called progesterone related gyno
    tren does not aromatize to become estrogen, so it is true it cannot cause estrogen related gyno

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    estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

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    im taking anadrol 50mg a day for the 1st 3 weeks could be from that.

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    my friend was on a deca and test cycle he had a pretty big lump the same bloke told him to take clomid and the lump as gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnq View Post
    i got told letro ruins your sex life and dont need that.
    -first off, used in a reasonable, low maintenance dose it will only do good, no harm
    -second, because you were not responsible, and you did not take a maintenance dose of letro through your cycle you are going to have to suck it up and deal with the possible side effects of a high dose to get rid of your gyno. grab some cialis, Viagra, or proviron in the mean time and you'll be okay
    -third, i hope you learned your lesson and plan to use letro in future cycles and help recommend it to others
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnq View Post
    im taking anadrol 50mg a day for the 1st 3 weeks could be from that.
    Anadrol and tren BOTH stimulate pgr.
    so its from the combination, and you not taking anything to control your estradoils. with letro or caber or bromo the mix is fine- without, bad mix.

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    cheers guys thanks for your advice im taking it all in and i will advise others.

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    Letro and caber......as in now. Theres your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    -first off, used in a reasonable, low maintenance dose it will only do good, no harm
    -second, because you were not responsible, and you did not take a maintenance dose of letro through your cycle you are going to have to suck it up and deal with the possible side effects of a high dose to get rid of your gyno. grab some cialis, Viagra, or proviron in the mean time and you'll be okay
    -third, i hope you learned your lesson and plan to use letro in future cycles and help recommend it to others
    What is your recommended maintenance dose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffBuffalo View Post
    What is your recommended maintenance dose?
    that depends on the cycle. and your bf%.
    anywhere between .25mg e3d (test only) to .25mg ed(test/deca /drol)

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