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    cycle for bulking up

    is sustanon 300 stacked with deca 250 a good bulking cycle?

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    I'll say it before One8nine.
    Sust sucks.

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    first off, sust sucks
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352930

    second,
    fill in the blanks-
    bf%-
    age-
    height/weight-
    years training/workout split-
    diet outline/# meals per day-

    these answers will help us tell you the best "stack"

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    bf uk. mabye 15%
    age. 30
    height. 5'10"
    weight. 225lbs
    started working out at about age 16, fell off for a few years.always have been on and off. have been back at it now for almost 1yr straight. 1 on 1 off schedule. hard training.
    no real diet. lots of protien, nox9 supplements, 100% whey protien.
    4-5 meals per day.

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    frst you need a solid diet before anything or you wont gain

    read the stickies in here and post up what you eat and youll get lots of great advice
    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

    you need to be sure of your bodyfat not "maybe". if you do not have a serious 12%, or preferably less bodyfat before you cycle you will get crazy side effects that will make it not worth doing. is that you in your avitar?

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    yes, 15% bf

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumarjr View Post
    yes, 15% bf
    get it checked on calipers or water when you think you are around 12% or less. i dont wanna discourage you bro but if your body fat is too high your gains will not be what they could be, and your side effects will be high.

    to help you out bro
    youll want to get on a first cycle of testosterone enanthate, or testosterone cypionate. deca is good but for your first cycle testosterone will give you all the gains you want alone. here are some links to read about them.

    http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm

    get in the diet forum, get that straight, and on the road to 12% read all on this board and get ready for your first cycle.

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    test
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    ok, sry.
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    edit that question read the rules
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145582

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    ok, so i guess i have to wait 45 days or make 100 posts before i can ask a question?

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    You won't find source help here no matter how long you wait, and assuming that is you in your avatar you should at least pick up a weight and maybe read about a diet before you consider taking steroids.

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    Wow what a big bad online tuff guy. Pick up a weight huh? I guess I have never done that. LOL. And diet, hum, well I might have about and extra 25lbs to loose but at least I have some respect. I may not be in perfect physical condition as I am sure you are. But that was the reason for my coming here. I had hoped to find some actual advice, but all I really found was an a hole that makes himself feel better by exerting some forum power. WOW! Amazing! Your my hero. U must have been born with all your knowledge on this gear, mabye you spend all day reading, but what good is any of that if you are not willing to share your info. Is what I said at Some point so offensive to have deserved your harsh remarks, if I did say something that offended you then I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumarjr View Post
    Wow what a big bad online tuff guy. Pick up a weight huh? I guess I have never done that. LOL. And diet, hum, well I might have about and extra 25lbs to loose but at least I have some respect. I may not be in perfect physical condition as I am sure you are. But that was the reason for my coming here. I had hoped to find some actual advice, but all I really found was an a hole that makes himself feel better by exerting some forum power. WOW! Amazing! Your my hero. U must have been born with all your knowledge on this gear, mabye you spend all day reading, but what good is any of that if you are not willing to share your info. Is what I said at Some point so offensive to have deserved your harsh remarks, if I did say something that offended you then I apologize.
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    You may never get help in here. There is a reason why BIG made that comment:
    1. he knows more than you
    2. he knows more than you
    Why do you think he is a monitor?
    I vote he gets kicked off for flaming BIG.

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    yes please and thank you.
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    dude, if you want help that's fine, but being a dick isn't gonna get you any, how bout asking a question instead of jumping on a soapbox and bitching

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    My remarks are realistic, if they are also harsh then so be it. If I saw you in public without a shirt I would never guess that you worked out a day in your life. I worked hard to approach my natural potential before I ever touched steroids and I do find it a bit offensive when people who have clearly not dieted or paid their dues in the gym want to jump on steroids for a shortcut.

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    Thanks Ranger, but I've got thick skin. I piss off a lot of people, but I'm here to tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. I'm hoping this guy sticks around as we really can help him achieve his goals, just not in the order he may have hoped.

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    I hope so, hell I got mad enough for ya. Flaming the guy that can answer every question he has and then more, on his first thread.

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    No need to get offensive, we would like you to stick around and learn what to do and how to do it the right way.

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    Good come back though, nice shot, purple cookie......lol

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    Look man honestly. I think you should look into cutting weight first. Its not that hard hit up the diet forum. Your pic shows that you have been working out but you need to focus on diet. Try six meals a day, high protein, low carbs and fat. What kind of contest you trying to win?

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    You ask You shall recieve

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    thank you, this was all I was looking for to start with. As far as the gyno, I have a 60 50mg clomid tabs along with 5000 iu hcg. I have a script for them. Diet could never hurt. I just have a problem with low carb diets. They take too much out of me causing muscle weakness. Also to another post, I am not tring to win or enter any contests. I am going to use just to add a little size that's all.
    Thank you for your input.

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    Clomid and hcg are not used to combat gyno. These are used primarily to reawaken your giblets post-cycle. <Clearly you have a lot of research and dieting to do.> Not trying to flame you, bro, but stepping lightly is something I was never very good at.

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