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    Newbie needs some help

    I have read through many of these posts looking for some answers but have yet to really find what I was looking for. Im 32, 6'1,210lbs

    I have just started hitting the gym heavy since a layoff due to young children, and do not plan on starting any kind of cycle for several months at least. Is there a good mix of oral steroids that could provide a good cut with maybe a slight mass gain. or are injectables the only way to go?

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    You need to hit the diet section first, that seems to be your main problem.
    What are you stats:

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    Yeah, I know diet is my priority right now. Thats why I did want to point out that im not going to run out and start a cycle right out of the gate. Im gonna really prove that im a novice when I tell you that I don't know my stats.

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    steroids do not cut diet cuts

    diet
    http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

    if you are scared of needles, you cant do steroids properly.

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    No, not scared of needles. So I assume oral steroids are not the best way to go? Basically, when I hear people speak of a cutting cycle then its a bunch of BS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runninfree View Post
    No, not scared of needles. So I assume oral steroids are not the best way to go? Basically, when I hear people speak of a cutting cycle then its a bunch of BS?
    fear, you just dont like them, needles hurt, blood is yucky, whatever reason- test is injectable, without test you dont have a good cycle.
    its hard to get from 10% to 5% naturally, so we use a cutting cycle to help maintain muscle while cutting calories. also at a low bodyfat we like cutting cycles because vascularity and hardness show through, which steroids enhance.
    cutting cycles are for people with a good diet, at a good body fat to begin with to finish the final stretch.
    if that doesnt describe you then you are not in need if a cutting cycle, you are in need of a good diet.

    after you get a good diet, you can look into clenbuterol . its a thermogenic, and its oral. but it will only work with perfect diet.


    diet first
    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
    clen second
    Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.

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    Again, needles don't bother me. This is probably something that im looking to do about six months out. I just want to gather as much information as possible now so I am well informed when I choose to make the decision.

    I have never had trouble keeping fat off, and don't believe I will have to much trouble burning off what I have accumulated.

    When you speak of test, are you suggesting that it should be injected with clenbuturol as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runninfree View Post
    Again, needles don't bother me. This is probably something that im looking to do about six months out. I just want to gather as much information as possible now so I am well informed when I choose to make the decision.

    I have never had trouble keeping fat off, and don't believe I will have to much trouble burning off what I have accumulated.

    When you speak of test, are you suggesting that it should be injected with clenbuturol as well?
    no because clencuterol is not a steroid . they can be used together in a "cutting cycle" but it isnt needed.
    clen is okay alone

    heres some more literature

    everything i know
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741

    newbie starter pack
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

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    Would you say that most of the Clen available online is garbage?

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