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08-07-2008, 10:16 PM #1
why reply if you dont want to help?
whats the sense in responding just to leave an answer that was neither helpful or constructive? my only question was if the stuff off of buysteroids.com is actual steroids or steroid alternatives . yes, my response may have been sarcastic but the response from a moderator of the site was that of someone who seems annoyed to help others. the point of being a mod of a forum is to help and share knowledge. isnt that why we are all here in the first place? this may lead to more bs from people but i figured i would throw this out there. there was no harm meant by my thread, i was merly asking for help. im new to this site obviously, but we have to start somewhere.
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08-07-2008, 10:20 PM #2Senior Member
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It is a common question that is asked daily. As the months pass, people get annoyed. You would to. A simple search and you would have got your answer.
Ill answer it now while I can before this might get closed.
If you look closely at the labels, they say dietary supplement. When something says dietary supplement that pretty much gives them free reign on what they want to call it. As long as they dont claim on the label what it will do for you, they are clear to say whatever. Its a way to circumvent FDA rules and regulations.
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08-07-2008, 10:20 PM #3Anabolic Voice of Reason
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08-07-2008, 10:20 PM #4
They are all herbal supps
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08-07-2008, 10:24 PM #5
In before the lock...
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08-07-2008, 10:33 PM #6
thats all i wanted to know. and yeah i feel kinda bad cuz i searched after i got that thread locked and ther was a lot of stuff about this same question so i apologize.
so, BIG i apologize for my shitty response to your not so wonderful response lol. point taken
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08-07-2008, 10:30 PM #7
ibtl proprietary blend
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08-07-2008, 11:01 PM #8
Wanted to throw my 2 cents ibtl.
After seeing your stats, you really shouldn't be thinking about aas. Your profile says 22, 6'2", and 135 lbs. You really need to work on your diet and training ruitine, and build up a proper base before starting a cycle.
Here is a great thread with diet info for hard-gainers.
Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!!
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08-07-2008, 11:26 PM #9Associate Member
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holy u are 6'2 and 135 lbs? ya there no need to be on the juice, when I was 20 this was many moon ago I was 120 lbs. Then I learn to eat a lot of food. Then work out hard.
Now I can say I in great shape at 5'4 and 154 lbs. I just started juice recently and have not done more then 2 cycles.
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08-08-2008, 12:22 AM #10
For sure about not taking AAS bro. I can remember being 135lbs in like 7th grade and I'm a 6'4" skinny guy, have been since 7th grade. No anabolic help until this past year. Went from 185lbs to 230lbs in a year and a half with no AAS assistance. It can be done, just work on that diet.
P.S. This is constructive criticism so dont curse at me lol.
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08-08-2008, 12:25 AM #11
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08-08-2008, 12:23 AM #12
Also, dont waste your money on that stuff. Wait for awhile till you gain some solid weight natty then find u a good source. Best of luck
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08-08-2008, 12:40 AM #13
^^ True. People think steroids will make them blow up while eating McDonalds and pizza every day. Sigh... If you're serious enough about your body to jump to the dark side, you're serious enough to eat properly.
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08-08-2008, 02:16 AM #14
i dont wanna gain a lot of mass, just help me get stronger quicker. I dont wanna gain much weight at all. i know with more muscle comes more weight, but i wanna try and stick to about where im at now. i think i will see what kind of results i get and how fast i get them now that i am going to be training every day and then go from there.
and no hard feelings about any of the answers lol. i know im abnormally skinny and that aas is not the answer. like i said, i am in no way looking to get "big". thats why i was lookin at anavar . i wanted something mild to just give me a little boost at about 20-30mg/day. until that time, its lots and lots of push ups lol
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08-08-2008, 02:20 AM #15
oh and as far as eating goes, sometimes i am not the healthiest, but i havent eaten fast food in months, and i will no longer drink anything but water. i take my camelback everywhere. i have it beside me right now lol. i must be doin something right though.
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08-08-2008, 11:33 AM #16
Well let me ask this, you say you eat healthy but healthy is not going to get you big. We are not asking how healthy you eat, we are asking how much of this healthy food you eat. In order to gain size, strength, etc... you need to adjust and increase your diet...
So my question to you, do you eat like this?
And you are 6'2" and 135lbs and you are happy where your at? Im not flaming you in any way shape or form, im just curious as what your real goals are and wondering if you want to stay at 135lbs or put on some nice lbm and gain some weight.
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08-08-2008, 01:31 PM #17
to anyone that could at least see where im coming from, thank you. it just sucked having my first post ridiculed within seconds lol. ok, im done apologizing, lets move on.
im comfortable where im at because ive been here for quite some time. the only weight i wanna put on would be muscle. for the most part, i only do fight specific workouts. lots of push ups, crunches, mitt work and LOTS of drills to improve stamina. i dont want a lot of bulk slowing me down. at my size/weight i have a nice reach advantage over damn near anyone in my weight class. i havent done anything to keep from gaining weight cuz that would be dumb, but the way i eat i only seem to get leaner. which, in all accounts is fine by me as long as im gaining a bit of muscle mass as well.
i know this doesnt make sense to many of you. i expected this reaction when talking to a bunch of people who are trying to get big. im not trying to get big, just stronger for the sake of my jiu jitsu. in stand up, speed is just as deadly as power. no worries there. i say boo to the ground game anyway not that i dont respect it, but no one wants to see guys rolling around with each other for 3 five minute rounds. stand up and throw some damn it
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08-08-2008, 01:52 PM #18
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08-08-2008, 06:57 AM #19
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08-08-2008, 05:12 AM #20
ok, first, you're 6'2" and 135lbs and you want to take something to help you? it's called food. this shows you did no research before you posted.
second, you asked a question that gets asked literally every day, which shows you did no research before posting, that's why we have a search feature.
third, my response was simply stating that the question you asked gets asked all the time, hoping you would take the hint and use the search button in which you would find more responses in 5 minutes than your thread would yield in days.
lastly, you called me a DICK just because I stated that you posted a question that gets asked all the time.
after further consideration I decided to re-open this thread, I would be interested to see what other members feel about this.
In after the lock lol.
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08-08-2008, 06:47 AM #21Junior Member
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guys like big and others can and will help you out tremendously, although i can relate about asking a very basic question that i think should be expected by a beginner,
there are some that cant wait to jump in on a biginner and make them look stupid for even asking, i dont agree with that.
there has to be a happy medium for when a beginner ask a common question as to not be flamed so bad , a BEGINNER will 9 times out of 10 ask a question that has been ask over and over,part of being a BEGINNER .
in saying that , i spend most of my time now researching but i still will ask a silly question at times i'm sure , either i dont understand my research or i just want to hear others opinions on things , isn't that what a forum is , if everyone researched everything - then there would be no need for a forum.
i might not like some of the replys i have gotten but the guys on this forum can and will help if the question is ask right .-------the slim
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08-08-2008, 07:07 AM #22AR Admin
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we are leaving this open unless it gets out of hand.... Big was well within the rules in what he posted to you... and your response was to be rude to him.... please do not allow it to happen again if you want to stay here...
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08-08-2008, 09:17 AM #23
Responsible use of AAS is what 99% promote here. AAS are not a short cut to strength and size, they certainly assist but only if you have the dedication to eat, train and rest as you should.
At 135 lbs you need to work on the basics eating right, training right and resting.
I know this is not what you want to hear, but sometimes the truth is the hardest to accept.
Good luck, don't be discouraged.
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08-08-2008, 09:33 AM #24
Big has been helping me out for over 6 weeks now and to my personal opinion has more knowledge than anyone I have got feedback from. He is straight to the facts with everything he gives and that takes alot of his own time.
He has been the only one not to give up on my endless and extremly novice questions so dealing with him will give you nothing but a great understanding and correct form.
Thanks again for everything big!
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08-08-2008, 10:15 AM #25
My humble opinion
is that having new members asking "been there, done that" questions is just a fact of board life. Rather than chase them all away or create additional resentment, things must be done to reduce the problem with that fact in mind.
I would suggest, that when someone registers, prior to checking a box or agreeing to having "read the rules"--people often skip those because they are assumed to contain legal drivel and tend to be long-winded--list in BIG BOLD COLORFUL words a condensed version of FOUR (or so) most MAJOR rules so that they cannot be missed when registering.
"I AGREE NOT TO:
(1) ask for or mention any source or price
(2) post rudely to any other member
and one or two more
FAILURE to follow these and other rules may result in suspension or permanent ban from this site."
If some new guy posts a played question, rather than berating them, best to post a link to the appropriate sticky thread, and otherwise just IGNORE the request for information.
HMMM? what say?
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08-08-2008, 11:13 AM #26
I agree, but my response was ''well that hasn't been asked in the last thirty minutes''. Sarcastic I know, but far from what I would consider berating him. I know I didn't give a direct answer, but my response was in fun and not meant to cause offense. I think people forget some times that it is hard to convey via text the emotion behind a statement.
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08-08-2008, 11:32 AM #27
i can look at this from both sides and understand both points here. i have done the same as big has many times over and maybe i shouldnt but you have to look at it from our point of view. we answer the same questions over and over again day in and day out on the forum as well as the many pm's we get daily and it does get frustrating after time. big was sarcastic not rude or disrespectful. there are alot of morons that wouldnt of been as nice as him.
obviously a statement writen in a forum dosnt allow you to hear someones voice and know there being sarcastic but asure you that was the case here. you need to develop a slight sense of humor if you expect to make it here because most of us joke around from time to time.
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08-08-2008, 01:48 PM #28
from the looks of your avatar your body fat looks incredibly low, which leads me to believe your muscle density is high. that being considered it may be a challenge for you to increase your strength without adding muscle mass which will obviously bump your weight. how much could you add and stay in the class you want to be in?
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