first time cycle...thinking about winny. yes? no?

**joiningthedarkside** · 08-08-2008, 11:20 PM

ok so ive already made up my mind that i want to go on the gear. for my first cycle ive been thinking about just going on winny alone because the side effects are minimal and i wont put on massive amounts of muscle to ware people will notice. i was also thinking of stacking that with dece possibly cus i know it has lower side effects. any advice? am i going to see enough ganes with the winny alone? also im prone to gyno and acnie.

**Amorphic** · 08-08-2008, 11:44 PM

sigh.

how do you know if you're prone to gyno and acne if you've never cycled before?

winstrol and deca ? terrible.

run test with it.

and your planned pct it?

all in all, pretty terrible logic.

**mkrulic** · 08-08-2008, 11:50 PM

give us your stats.

PT · 08-09-2008, 03:45 AM

if this is your first cycle then go with test cyp or enth. run some armidex to keep the estrogen and water down and you wont blow up. winny requires daily injections and i asure you that you will not enjoy them for they are painful and not a good choice for your 1st cycle. run 500mgs of test cyp or enth for 10 weeks then start your pct 10 days after your last injection
12-16 nolva 20mgs ed
12-16 armidex .5mgs ed or 20mgs aromasin ed

**joiningthedarkside** · 08-11-2008, 10:42 PM

ok i see what you guys are saying but how i know im prone to gyno is i was born with a small case of it so aparently i have the gland. also my skin is naturally oily and i still brake out every once and awhile. i did have navadex planned as a pct. plus when i come off my first cycle i want to be able to hold on to as much muscle as possible but i also dont want to put too much on too fast. any ideas????

**one8nine** · 08-11-2008, 11:06 PM

no offence but you are clueless

read these

phate's starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355504

kale's starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

my (one8nine's) starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741

**joiningthedarkside** · 08-11-2008, 11:51 PM

haha i thought i actually knew alot. i have a book about anabolics and i thought i learned alot. i read those but and they helped but it doesnt really seem to answer my question about the gyno and the acne. it seems like enathate would be the choice of test but with that the sides are there....so what would i do or take?

**one8nine** · 08-12-2008, 12:00 AM

Test Beginner Cycle Guide
Test beginner cycle info

but read my other links too for more learning

you need test in any good cycle.
winny alone is pointless.
winny/deca is uneducated and dangerous.

**joiningthedarkside** · 08-12-2008, 12:14 AM

ok thanks im going to fully read that over again. i have another question my friend started a cycle of cyp about three weeks ago, my only concern is that he has no pct at all. what should i tell him and idk if you guys can tell me but whare would i tell him to get it from?

**one8nine** · 08-12-2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by joiningthedarkside

ok thanks im going to fully read that over again. i have another question my friend started a cycle of cyp about three weeks ago, my only concern is that he has no pct at all. what should i tell him and idk if you guys can tell me but whare would i tell him to get it from?

www.ar-r.com

**joiningthedarkside** · 08-12-2008, 12:20 AM

ok thanks good looking out

**one8nine** · 08-12-2008, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by joiningthedarkside;4127***

ok thanks good looking out

no prob bro get those newbie threads read and theyll answer every question you have and 100 questions you didnt even know you didnt know.

by the way just so you know you can ask for pct stuff on here cause ar-r is the site sponsor but never talk about buying the actual juice, sources, the lab that makes your juice, or money. youll get banned if you do it enough.