Test-e and NPP (durabolin) or Dbol!

**te4vass** · 08-09-2008, 09:55 PM

Gonna start my second cycle soon and was just posting to get some ideas and suggestions from the community.

First cycle was 12 weeks of test-e @ 500mg a week.
Superb gains off this cycle. Almost decided to just run this again but would like to add that second chemical to get more out of it. Stats are:

30 years old
6'1" 198
about 10% BF
been lifting for 11 years, serious for the past 4 years, 5 days a week 1 1/2 hour a day. diet is in check and good.

Here is what i was thinking of for my second cycle. Either:

1-12 Test-e 750mg/week
1-10 Durabolin (npp)

OR

1-12 Test-e 750mg/week
4-10 Dbol @ 40mg/ED

If i go with the first cycle can i add the two chemicals together to minimize pinning? Can i take npp every other day or does it need taken every day? Anyone run something similiar to this and with what results?

Thanks for any info..

**Amorphic** · 08-09-2008, 10:13 PM

definitely go with npp. i ran it and the strength increase was great. i ran it with prop and i shot both ed.

**te4vass** · 08-09-2008, 10:16 PM

yah i was thinking of buying prop instead of using this test-e so i can shoot both eod and mix them. Is there any way i can use this test-e and not have to pin 5 days a week?

**Amorphic** · 08-09-2008, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by te4vass

yah i was thinking of buying prop instead of using this test-e so i can shoot both eod and mix them. Is there any way i can use this test-e and not have to pin 5 days a week?

max i would go for length between shots of npp would be every 3 days. i just preferred prop as i wanted everything to kick in quick. ed shots are not issue for me.

**Amorphic** · 08-09-2008, 10:29 PM

also pct start time is much quicker when using prop since you can start pct 2 days after your last shot instead of 2 weeks

**te4vass** · 08-09-2008, 10:34 PM

so how does this sound?

Mondays 250mg test-e and 100mg npp
Wednsday 250mg test-e and 100mg npp
Friday 250mg tes-e and 100mg npp
Sunday 100mg npp
Tuesday 250mg test-e and 100mg npp
Thursday 250 Test-e and 100mg npp
Saturday 250 test-e and 100mg npp

Start over.. repeat..

**Amorphic** · 08-09-2008, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by te4vass

so how does this sound?

Mondays 250mg test-e and 100mg npp
Wednsday 250mg test-e and 100mg npp
Friday 250mg tes-e and 100mg npp
Sunday 100mg npp
Tuesday 250mg test-e and 100mg npp
Thursday 250 Test-e and 100mg npp
Saturday 250 test-e and 100mg npp

Start over.. repeat..

yeah that'll work.

personally i would still vote for prop.

**te4vass** · 08-09-2008, 10:41 PM

yeah i have heard great things about prop. Should i cut my cycle length to 10 weeks prop then 8 weeks npp using prop or can i take prop for 12 weeks like test-e

**Amorphic** · 08-09-2008, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by te4vass

yeah i have heard great things about prop. Should i cut my cycle length to 10 weeks prop then 8 weeks npp using prop or can i take prop for 12 weeks like test-e

you can take it for 12 weeks.

if you want you can run 11 weeks of npp and 12 weeks of prop.

**RANA** · 08-10-2008, 04:19 AM

What are your goals for this cycle? Bulk up or harden up?

**te4vass** · 08-10-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by RANA

What are your goals for this cycle? Bulk up or harden up?

Bulk up. wouldn't mind a little harder but mostly bulking.

**one8nine** · 08-10-2008, 10:38 AM

if you are going to inject daily go with npp/test prop
if you are scared of needles i would say just use test e/deca

**RANA** · 08-10-2008, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by te4vass

Bulk up. wouldn't mind a little harder but mostly bulking.

Bulking up, go with test e/deca and/or a dbol kicker.

**te4vass** · 08-10-2008, 04:40 PM

Im not afraid of needles in any way. I just dont want to poke myself more then neccesary.

I already have the test-e and npp is on the way. Is this still a good cycle or should i get rid of the test-e and buy prop? I guess what im trying to say is will i get the same results off the test-e?

**one8nine** · 08-10-2008, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by te4vass

Im not afraid of needles in any way. I just dont want to poke myself more then neccesary.

I already have the test-e and npp is on the way. Is this still a good cycle or should i get rid of the test-e and buy prop? I guess what im trying to say is will i get the same results off the test-e?

youll get the same results with test e just more sides longer kick in time
but if you pick a compound use it correctly

like why would you wear a hat on your foot when you can just buy a shoe?

prop/npp- every day
enan/nandro- deca -2x a week

**te4vass** · 08-10-2008, 04:58 PM

yah ive done plenty of research. My diet is dead on and my pct is set.

i was going to do
1-12 500mg week Test-e
1-10 400mg week Npp

Monday 250mg test and 100 npp
Wednsday 200 npp
Friday 250 test and 100 npp

repeat....

Maybe front load the test with 1000mg first 2 weeks. And since its been said not to take NPP any more then 3 days apart I figure this would be a good cycle. Or should i go with:

Monday 250 test and 100 npp
Wednsday 100 npp
Friday 250 test and 200 Npp (since it will be 3 days before my next injection of npp)

any suggestions?

**RANA** · 08-10-2008, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

youll get the same results with test e just more sides longer kick in time
but if you pick a compound use it correctly

like why would you wear a hat on your foot when you can just buy a shoe?

prop/npp- every day
enan/nandro- deca-2x a week

What? Some say cucumbers taste better pickled...

**RANA** · 08-10-2008, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by te4vass

yah ive done plenty of research. My diet is dead on and my pct is set.

i was going to do
1-12 500mg week Test-e
1-10 400mg week Npp

Monday 250mg test and 100 npp
Wednsday 200 npp
Friday 250 test and 100 npp

repeat....

Maybe front load the test with 1000mg first 2 weeks. And since its been said not to take NPP any more then 3 days apart I figure this would be a good cycle. Or should i go with:

Monday 250 test and 100 npp
Wednsday 100 npp
Friday 250 test and 200 Npp (since it will be 3 days before my next injection of npp)

any suggestions?

I would go with Monday morning 250mg of Test E and Thursday night with 250 mg of Test E. Stick with the same amount of npp 75mg ED.

This is what I think you should do!
1-12 weeks of Test E 500 PW (250mg every 3.5 days)
1-4 weeks 40 mg of dbol (kicker)

Save your NPP for your next cycle and add your Test prop with it.
This is my two cents.

**Ashop** · 08-10-2008, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by te4vass

Gonna start my second cycle soon and was just posting to get some ideas and suggestions from the community.

First cycle was 12 weeks of test-e @ 500mg a week.
Superb gains off this cycle. Almost decided to just run this again but would like to add that second chemical to get more out of it. Stats are:

30 years old
6'1" 198
about 10% BF
been lifting for 11 years, serious for the past 4 years, 5 days a week 1 1/2 hour a day. diet is in check and good.

Here is what i was thinking of for my second cycle. Either:

1-12 Test-e 750mg/week
1-10 Durabolin (npp)

OR

1-12 Test-e 750mg/week
4-10 Dbol @ 40mg/ED

If i go with the first cycle can i add the two chemicals together to minimize pinning? Can i take npp every other day or does it need taken every day? Anyone run something similiar to this and with what results?

Thanks for any info..

actaully the cobo of TEST/DBOL/DECA (OR NPP) make a great time proven cycle.

**Dog-Slime** · 08-11-2008, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by RANA

I would go with Monday morning 250mg of Test E and Thursday night with 250 mg of Test E. Stick with the same amount of npp 75mg ED.

This is what I think you should do!
1-12 weeks of Test E 500 PW (250mg every 3.5 days)
1-4 weeks 40 mg of dbol (kicker)

Save your NPP for your next cycle and add your Test prop with it.
This is my two cents.

Agreed. Think a lot of guys get into the whole taking a bunch of compounds and upping doses but it just doesn't make sense to me. Thats all the gear you need to make great gains on your second cycle so no need to spend money on more gear and invite more sides your way.