Test Enth 250 & Bold 250 + D-Bols Cycle Help

**FiniX** · 08-10-2008, 07:40 AM

Hi guys im pretty much new to this place but i been doing alot of reading

this is my first proper cycle and im going to be doing

1-14wks
1ml T-ENTH 250mg a week
1ml Bold 250mg a week
4x D-bol 10mg tabs a day for 5 weeks just to kickstart me up.

for 14 weeks or possibly 12

Now is 1ml of each enouf for me as i see sum people doing 2ml of each i also have 10mls of tren 100mg i dunno if i should include that into my cycle or keep it aside for later. any ideas or anything i should change please help,

**Bigmax** · 08-10-2008, 08:22 AM

Stats bro????????????...Thats a low dose for those two compounds bro..you're probably producing that natty if you're of a young age....250mgs of BOLDENONE is nothing bro...that a very mild compound..by the way if you do run the BOLD best to run it 14-16 weeks..

**one8nine** · 08-10-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by FiniX

Hi guys im pretty much new to this place but i been doing alot of reading

this is my first proper cycle and im going to be doing

1-14wks
1ml T-ENTH 250mg a week
1ml Bold 250mg a week
4x D-bol 10mg tabs a day for 5 weeks just to kickstart me up.

for 14 weeks or possibly 12

Now is 1ml of each enouf for me as i see sum people doing 2ml of each i also have 10mls of tren 100mg i dunno if i should include that into my cycle or keep it aside for later. any ideas or anything i should change please help,

EQ is minimum 12-14 weeks, at 600mg+ a week in my opinion
EQ sucks anyway what do you expect it to do for you?
test e is injected 2x a week and in the given cycle is a complete waste at that dose
no 1ml is not enough
no you should not include tren at all its a serious drug and you are nowhere near ready

**T_Own** · 08-10-2008, 12:20 PM

not to mention that 1g of tren would only last you 3 weeks max

**tadpoleboyy** · 08-10-2008, 02:29 PM

up that eq to 600mg/wk, and that would be the exact same cycle i have done before. I made some great gains. 250mg/wk is a waste however (for eq). test at 250 is effective for many people if they are virgins of gear

**Bigmax** · 08-10-2008, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

EQ is minimum 12-14 weeks, at 600mg+ a week in my opinion
EQ sucks anyway what do you expect it to do for you?
test e is injected 2x a week and in the given cycle is a complete waste at that dose
no 1ml is not enough
no you should not include tren at all its a serious drug and you are nowhere near ready

Good lord bro...do you hate EQ too???...

**one8nine** · 08-10-2008, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Good lord bro...do you hate EQ too???...

haha no man i really like it but for the right reasons
i just assume most people wanna get big or cut down
i think he has better options if those are his goals
now if he wants endurance and vascularity then sure its great

**FiniX** · 08-10-2008, 09:03 PM

Basicly what i want from this cyle is to cut down fat and the same time put a little bit of size and be more defined. so you guys wreckon i should up the dosage to 600mg a week for the eq and the enthate to 500mg a week? also should i keep using the d-bols for 5 weeks just to kick start everything... i dont want to get massive but i want to get big and look good if you get what i mean.

Also i have mixed my bold and enth into 1 bottle. so should i give it a good shake and inject 2ml 2times a week? so then it will be 500mg of enth and 500mg of eq a week?? would that be heaps better?

**tadpoleboyy** · 08-10-2008, 09:20 PM

those are good doses. You could even drop the test down to 250mg/week and get results that are decent. If you have never cycled, it shouldnt take too much to get big.

**FiniX** · 08-10-2008, 09:32 PM

also mixing them into one bottle doesnt reduce the effects does it? as long as i give it a good shake i should be getting 1/1 ratio of both when i take it out? coz the guy i got it from competed in australia under 95kgs and come 1st his got a amazing body and he told me the effect of the gear wouldnt change if i mixed em together i hope he was right!... also the d-bols no one told me anything about them yet but should i stop using them or should i stick to the 5weeks just to give me the extra kickstart

**FiniX** · 08-10-2008, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Stats bro????????????...Thats a low dose for those two compounds bro..you're probably producing that natty if you're of a young age....250mgs of BOLDENONE is nothing bro...that a very mild compound..by the way if you do run the BOLD best to run it 14-16 weeks..

i was thinking 15 weeks bro

**FiniX** · 08-13-2008, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Stats bro????????????...Thats a low dose for those two compounds bro..you're probably producing that natty if you're of a young age....250mgs of BOLDENONE is nothing bro...that a very mild compound..by the way if you do run the BOLD best to run it 14-16 weeks..

Bigmax my stats are

Age: 21
Hight: 6"1
weight: 92kgs 16-17% Body Fat

what else you want to know bro

**mkrulic** · 08-13-2008, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by one8nine

haha no man i really like it but for the right reasons
i just assume most people wanna get big or cut down
i think he has better options if those are his goals
now if he wants endurance and vascularity then sure its great

good call. look at very next post after this one

**mkrulic** · 08-13-2008, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by FiniX

Basicly what i want from this cyle is to cut down fat and the same time put a little bit of size and be more defined. so you guys wreckon i should up the dosage to 600mg a week for the eq and the enthate to 500mg a week? also should i keep using the d-bols for 5 weeks just to kick start everything... i dont want to get massive but i want to get big and look good if you get what i mean.

Also i have mixed my bold and enth into 1 bottle. so should i give it a good shake and inject 2ml 2times a week? so then it will be 500mg of enth and 500mg of eq a week?? would that be heaps better?

you want lean gains. why do you think eq is going to help w/ this?

**mkrulic** · 08-13-2008, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by FiniX

Bigmax my stats are

Age: 21
Hight: 6"1
weight: 92kgs 16-17% Body Fat

what else you want to know bro

a better understanding of nutrition might go further than the cycle you suggested

**FiniX** · 08-18-2008, 12:46 AM

becaouse thats what bold does it helps you put on quality muscle??

Today, the substance boldenone undecylenate can only be found in steroids for veterinary medicine. The American Equipoise is for horses; the Columbian Ganabol is used for cattle; and the German Vebonol for dogs. Athletes do not care, which shows the enormous popularity and far-reaching application of these steroid compounds. Boldenone undecylenate is also very effective in humans and offers the athlete interesting characteristics which other steroids simply do not have.

Equipoise has a relatively high anabolic effect which is usually connected with a moderately distinct androgenic component. For this reason, Equipoise is not the steroid that will cause enormous gains in strength and muscle mass in the shortest time. Equipoise has a very favorable effect on the organism's nitrogen balance so that the main effect consists of a distinctly increased protein synthesis in the muscle cell. The resulting gain in body weight consists of a solid quality increase of the muscles which occurs slowly and evenly. The high quality is caused by low water retention of the substance. An additional advantage is that Equipoise aromatizes only slightly, thus making it an effective drug to use when preparing for competitions. Athletes who are dieting combine Equipoise with Winstrol Depot and report a dramatic increase in muscle hardness. Together with a sufficiently high supply of calories and protein this combination offers its users a large increase in strength and a rapid gain in qual-ity muscles. Many will notice that Equipoise stimulates the appetite. The advantages achieved can usually be well-maintained over several weeks after use of the compound is discontinued. Equipoise also stimulates the erythropoiesis which is manifested by improved development and the formation of red blood cells. Bodybuilders thus experience an improved pump effect during workout and an improved vascularity

**mkrulic** · 08-18-2008, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by FiniX

becaouse thats what bold does it helps you put on quality muscle??

Today, the substance boldenone undecylenate can only be found in steroids for veterinary medicine. The American Equipoise is for horses; the Columbian Ganabol is used for cattle; and the German Vebonol for dogs. Athletes do not care, which shows the enormous popularity and far-reaching application of these steroid compounds. Boldenone undecylenate is also very effective in humans and offers the athlete interesting characteristics which other steroids simply do not have.

Equipoise has a relatively high anabolic effect which is usually connected with a moderately distinct androgenic component. For this reason, Equipoise is not the steroid that will cause enormous gains in strength and muscle mass in the shortest time. Equipoise has a very favorable effect on the organism's nitrogen balance so that the main effect consists of a distinctly increased protein synthesis in the muscle cell. The resulting gain in body weight consists of a solid quality increase of the muscles which occurs slowly and evenly. The high quality is caused by low water retention of the substance. An additional advantage is that Equipoise aromatizes only slightly, thus making it an effective drug to use when preparing for competitions. Athletes who are dieting combine Equipoise with Winstrol Depot and report a dramatic increase in muscle hardness. Together with a sufficiently high supply of calories and protein this combination offers its users a large increase in strength and a rapid gain in qual-ity muscles. Many will notice that Equipoise stimulates the appetite. The advantages achieved can usually be well-maintained over several weeks after use of the compound is discontinued. Equipoise also stimulates the erythropoiesis which is manifested by improved development and the formation of red blood cells. Bodybuilders thus experience an improved pump effect during workout and an improved vascularity

looks great on paper. one of the most over-rated steroids imo. I ran it at 600mg/week and didnt even notice it was in my cycle.

**FiniX** · 08-23-2008, 05:01 PM

must of been fake then, i've seen people gain great results with 600mg a week thats what aspired me to jump on it.

**mkrulic** · 08-23-2008, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by FiniX

must of been fake then, i've seen people gain great results with 600mg a week thats what aspired me to jump on it.

made it myself and no, it wasnt fake. your friend would have made the same gains w/o the eq. hate to ruin this for you but when it comes to eq all gains come from p.o.s

**wukillabee** · 08-23-2008, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by FiniX

Basicly what i want from this cyle is to cut down fat and the same time put a little bit of size and be more defined. so you guys wreckon i should up the dosage to 600mg a week for the eq and the enthate to 500mg a week? also should i keep using the d-bols for 5 weeks just to kick start everything... i dont want to get massive but i want to get big and look good if you get what i mean.

Also i have mixed my bold and enth into 1 bottle. so should i give it a good shake and inject 2ml 2times a week? so then it will be 500mg of enth and 500mg of eq a week?? would that be heaps better?

Omg, did he just ask if he could put his bold into the same vial of his test, shake it up, then draw out 2ml? Or better yet did he say he already mixed them into 1 vial and already shooting 2ml of it? Wow, guess this is why aas are illegal. Do some research bro before u harm urself.

**mkrulic** · 08-23-2008, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by wukillabee

Omg, did he just ask if he could put his bold into the same vial of his test, shake it up, then draw out 2ml? Or better yet did he say he already mixed them into 1 vial and already shooting 2ml of it? Wow, guess this is why aas are illegal. Do some research bro before u harm urself.

that would work. you wouldnt be able to stop the eq 2 weeks before the test tho

**wukillabee** · 08-23-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

that would work. you wouldnt be able to stop the eq 2 weeks before the test tho

Dont think you would get a perfect 50/50 ratio per ml either. Would be guessing whats in ur 1ml everytime. Thats why they come in seperate vials. U could draw up .5ml from one vial and .5ml from another and get a perfect 50/50 ratio. Some gear is "Made" into combos at an accurate dose but i dont believe in putting 10ml of one compound into another vial that already has 10ml of another compound and thinking everytime u draw up 1ml ur gonna get a 50/50 ratio each time. DOnt think it works like that.

**mkrulic** · 08-23-2008, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by wukillabee

Dont think you would get a perfect 50/50 ratio per ml either. Would be guessing whats in ur 1ml everytime. Thats why they come in seperate vials. U could draw up .5ml from one vial and .5ml from another and get a perfect 50/50 ratio. Some gear is "Made" into combos at an accurate dose but i dont believe in putting 10ml of one compound into another vial that already has 10ml of another compound and thinking everytime u draw up 1ml ur gonna get a 50/50 ratio each time. DOnt think it works like that.

no it would be perfect. reason being is because its a solution and not a suspension.

**wukillabee** · 08-23-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

no it would be perfect. reason being is because its a solution and not a suspension.

Hmm, ok, if u say so. Dont really see any benefit to it but to each their own.

**FiniX** · 08-24-2008, 09:43 AM

well were i am when we get gear it doesnt come in bottles lol coz its hard to but i only mixed the first 10mls of each which is almost over and when it is the rest i will be keeping it seperated

back to my cycle should i start pct 2 weeks after my cycle or start the clomid a week after the last injection and the nolva on the second week?