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I am an mma fighter looking for the edge. I am 6'2 280 and need to shead fat and gain lean muscle quick. I am looking to gain endurance, strength and extream carido. I was looking into HGH as a base but Im not 100% sure what to run along with it to remain loose, and gain joint strength as well. Can you help me and lend som advise.
Retired VET~ If you dont know... ask me
welcome to Ar bro...ok you're 280lbs...what is your body fat% ???..I suggest for you to do some reading on here..there are many threads on info for everything......endurance,stregnth and cardio will be best gained by doing just that...strength training and doing good cardio work...Is this your first cycle??
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I am sure 1nine8 will come along.. and post on your thread. He does some MMA. He is full of knowledge and should be a Mod.
Just as Bigmax said.. ( HE IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ALSO) Stats.
BF%, age
Formula1 Aficionado
^^ 189*
to add to their questions, have you done any previous cycles?
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I have trained/fought mma alot. I like hgh with winny/deca/test. stay away from Tren and dbol, as it will greatly affect your cardio.
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please list these things so we can make a custom cycle for you:Originally Posted by mmabeast
age
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
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One8nine, are you the guy to ask about stacks for MMA performance? I am a training fighter as well and really need help from an expert... I don't want to highjack this dude's thread, anyway I can get your opinion/help? I can't seen to figure out a PM, the only option is to email you, is that cool? Do you check that?
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You cant PM until you have 25 posts, You should just start your own thread.
Junior Member
Oh, true. Thanks for the heads up on the PM's. As for starting a thread, I think I'll do just that.
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Halo!!!!!!
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I have never done a cycle.
I am 34
bf% 20
Diet summary: Breakfast- Protinr/Creatine shake
Lunch -salad/water/fruit
dinner-chicken breast, brown rice/wheat pasta water
workout summary: I do an MMA workout and lift at night from 5-9
Will be starting a mon wed friday split upper body and tues thursday 300 workout #1 and #2
as for : pct/estrogen control knowledge...no clue
Like I said Im not a fat out of shape guy. Ive been a wrestler fighter my whole life. Im looking to improve my build, and my cardio. I want to be ripped and be able to go many many fight rounds. I dont want a bodybuilder bulk build, I want a leaner, 300 type build.
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Halo bigsexy
Formula1 Aficionado
are you sure about 20% bf?
Formula1 Aficionado
lol did you think that meant "hi"?
New Member
I havent had a bf% test done in a few years. Last I checked I was at 14% a few years ago.
Halo...no clue. whats it mean?
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Use the search button it is a very potent oral steroid.Halo...no clue. whats it mean?
Formula1 Aficionado
http://www.steroid.com/Halotestin.php
read that, thats halo
if you are 20% you should cut down before cycling, but i can't imagine 20% and being a very good fighter..
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Im very new to this.
Halostine is used to gain strength and aggression with out mass gain or water retention. it is however liver toxic. and should be used at 40mg per day ?
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Im a HWT and am 5-2 and on a 5 fight win streak winning 4 of my last 5 by tko in under 1 min. id say im pretty damb good. maybe not 20% more like 10-15 %.
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thats what it says.. whats the question?
sweet..? calm down...?
thats why i said 20% might be wrong.
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Sounds like it would be good in my case. What would be good to take along with it. I understand it will be good for energy level and cardio and strength. i also would like to take something to give me that pronounced muscle look, or defination, and something to burn fat fast. My guess was: Halo
HgH with a winny, deca, test stack.
My question would be what doses and how often.
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why would you add deca if you want more definition? you bloat a lot with it so that kinda goes out the door. you could use npp + prop, but nandrolone is detectable for like 18 months so it wouldn't fit well with fighting (assuming you get tested?) unless you wanna be like sean sherk.
hgh is pretty expensive, but would help burn fat. so if your set on that cycle, you could do 1-10 npp @ 75mg ed / prop 75mg ed / 4-10 winstrol 50mg ed / maybe 4iu hgh for 4 months or so
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your diet is not good at all it needs a lot of work. you only get one REAL meal a day. you need 5-6 real meals a day maybe one or two shakes
diet
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php
some good fighting drugs are halotestin, primobolin, masteron, testosterone propionate, npp, and tren
as for the actual use of these drugs there are a few points-
-using AIs on cycle is very important, we dont need bloating or other estrogenic sides affecting our weight or speed or endurance
-short ester injectable drugs (every day injections) are much better than long ester (2x a week injects) because although the stability of blood levels wont cause much problem for the average bodybuilder it can **** up our whole fight
what are your drug testing times?
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a fighter should never use winny.
its very bad for you joints, makes the tissues very weak.
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would the deca/npp be enough to counter that?
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no.
nandro helps lube your joints
winny increases production of very weak tissue.
you youd have a lot of weak, lubricated tissue.
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Hmmm, are you on his payroll these days? I would love to be admin and check your IP against his IP address. . .
Now that is some funny chitt.
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Ok...
I would never use winny. Too much on the joints.
Second, Deca is decectable up to 18months... TERRIBLE idea for a fighters (like myself and 189), that is unless you like being suspended for your althletic commission.
Dude, drop some BF, and rethink your training...
Hell, at 6'2, id like to see someone at that height fight at 205... Not saying there arent dudes who can pull it off, but still not ideal for HW.
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oh ok i got it. that makes sense then
i'm still interested in how often he fights/gets tested
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^^^ doesnt matter...
I really dont think this guy walks around at 280+, and is around 10-15 BF%,and manages to make the cut to 265... Do you know who big and strong this kid would be! Bigfoot Silva size and strength. Unlikely...
And is on a 5 fight win streak with him finishing his opponents by TKO in under a minute...
He would be in Elite XC, UFC, IFL, or somethin by now...
Im callin shananagins, thats far too unrealistic, i may not know much, but i know the fight game dude....
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which part doesn't matter?
i'm a little doubting this too. since he said last time he checked was 14%, he should be able to tell if he's fatter or thinner than that.
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It doesnt matter how often he fights and gets tested...
i really dont think he is what he says, its just too unrealistic
Formula1 Aficionado
why wouldn't that matter? he could be fighting two weeks from now but still use test suspension. or two years from now and get away with nandrolone
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Look1st of all its my ammy record. Im not looking to impress anyone with online bullshit. it really doesnt matter. I really am 6'2 and yes I cut to get down to 265. I wresteled in HS and in College.
The point here is I am looking to find the right combination to get to where I want to be.I have been doing some research on a few of these and gotten some advise from different people. I have not made up my mind what I am going to do.
one8nine seems to be the most level headed on here and seems in my opinion to be the most knowledgable on the subject.
Can you one8nine help me out on the subject. Possibly put together a cycle thay will do what I am after.
Burn fat quickly.
Build lean muscle
Build extreme cardio
Increasr energy and aggression.
What I have gathered so far is Halo and hgh for sure. What i now need is the rest of the cycle.
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im 6'3" my class is 185
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my last cycle was test/tren/masteron/anavar
but your diet is miles behind, you really need to focus on that before any drugs
i dont mean small changes. i mean i complete change
Formula1 Aficionado
sounds like you're trying to impress someone with some online bullshit
hgh is gonna cost you.. its not cheap
one of my friends is 6'2 fighting 145. he cuts from like 175 but is still SKINNY
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Can we stay on point here ?
I can change my diet at the drop of a hat. What I need is to start a program and hit the ground running. I wanna start it all at once.
As far as testing in my state goes. NONE. The only states that really Test are FL, CA, and NV. Thats for the really big shows. I know none of our pros get tested.
However I plan on fighting in some bigger shows within the next 18 months so I dont want to take something that is gonna keep me out of those.
All I am asking for is advice on what would benefit me the most.
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
hahaha
that was a good one...
and yeah dude, youre right 189 is the most level headed guy here, and i trust him to the fullest, its just YOU DONT WANT TO LISTEN!
Hes already said youre diet needs to be changed bro... Drop some BF, get on a serious diet for 4months and come back...
and BTW, not ALL of these are possible, youre gonna have to sacrafice.
Burn fat quickly.
Build lean muscle
Build extreme cardio
Increasr energy and aggression
and im 5'11 and i fight at 170...
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
ok now i know youre full of it...
Every state that sanctions fights, test for anabolic steroids...
That is, professionals, not all AMs get tested, but all pros absolutey do...
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