All Out Strength: Halotestin vs Tren

**football3355** · 08-14-2008, 04:01 PM

Extremely curious, all the talk about Tren being one of the best aas ever created, but in terms of strength: is it better than Halotestin ? I know Halo is used primarily for strength, but which would skyrocket your strength better?

**powerliftmike** · 08-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Halo for just strength. tren will have more dramatic effects on the physique tho

**Bigmax** · 08-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Tren bro...IMO anyway...used Halo but felt more on how hard i got in terms of the look...Then again individuality will show different views.

**powerliftmike** · 08-14-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

Extremely curious, all the talk about Tren being one of the best aas ever created, but in terms of strength: is it better than Halotestin? I know Halo is used primarily for strength, but which would skyrocket your strength better?

And the best steroid ever created is testosterone , not tren . That's why mother nature uses it

**Bigmax** · 08-14-2008, 04:08 PM

Yeah Test is the format !!!!

**one8nine** · 08-14-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

Halo for just strength. tren will have more dramatic effects on the physique tho

#2 this^^

imo 1-10

tren -
cut/size: 8
strength: 8

halo-
cut/size: 3
strength: 10

PT · 08-14-2008, 05:16 PM

there isnt a drug out there that has made me as strong as halo has

**Maverick_J8** · 08-15-2008, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by PT

there isnt a drug out there that has made me as strong as halo has

What kind of dosages do you run, and have you managed to keep all strength gains?

**"Maximus"** · 08-15-2008, 10:06 AM

@ Mav,

From what I've seen/researched so far, Tren /Halo (50mg/30mg) for beginners. Also, in order to keep gains, your PCT/wkout will rule how much of your strength gains you get to keep.

**"Maximus"** · 08-15-2008, 10:09 AM

I've seen other, advanced users, using higher doses in their cycles but IMO, it's good to keep it low if you're not that experieced...

**jstraw428** · 08-15-2008, 12:11 PM

For pure strength, halo is top dog.......I only use it in the final weeks of contest prep....it allows me to continue grueling workouts, even though i am energy depleted from severe dieting......I have run it at 50mg ed for 3wks, and by the end, my lower back pumps were almost unbearable.....very hard on your body....

**football3355** · 08-15-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

#2 this^^

imo 1-10

tren -
cut/size: 8
strength: 8

halo-
cut/size: 3
strength: 10

sounds good thanks for the info. I am going to take Halo with test prop in a cycle for lean muscle gain (~10lbs) but mostly for HUGE strength gains. I need it for the upcoming baseball season. Plan on running Halo for the first 4 weeks of the cycle and then just continue to run test prop for a total of 10 weeks.

Halo: wk 1-4
test prop: wk 1-10

this sound good? I am not 100% sure this is the correct place in the cycle to put Halo, but it makes sense. Any critique is greatly appreciated guys!

**Michael Scott** · 08-15-2008, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

And the best steroid ever created is testosterone , not tren . That's why mother nature uses it

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

**football3355** · 08-15-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Michael Scott

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

please stay on topic, thanks. But you are correct, nonetheless.

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Michael Scott

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

cool it has a higher a/a ratio
lets see you live on tren only the rest of your life, no test
halo is like 15x as anabolic , 8x as androgenic as test einstein

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

sounds good thanks for the info. I am going to take Halo with test prop in a cycle for lean muscle gain (~10lbs) but mostly for HUGE strength gains. I need it for the upcoming baseball season. Plan on running Halo for the first 4 weeks of the cycle and then just continue to run test prop for a total of 10 weeks.

Halo: wk 1-4
test prop: wk 1-10

this sound good? I am not 100% sure this is the correct place in the cycle to put Halo, but it makes sense. Any critique is greatly appreciated guys!

i like it
run test longer to help solidify the halo gains

**arenawarrior** · 08-15-2008, 05:51 PM

189 for prez!

**football3355** · 08-15-2008, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

i like it
run test longer to help solidify the halo gains

awsome thanks. Heres what I am thinking:

wk 1-4 halo
wk 1-12 test prop

sound good?

BTW is Halo the steroid that will make you the strongest out of ALL steroids period? like no matter how many steroids i tried over time, would halo be the one i get the most strength gains from?

**Flex-Appeal** · 08-15-2008, 06:14 PM

look at the thread stallion_1 just posted. Self explanatory ...

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

awsome thanks. Heres what I am thinking:

wk 1-4 halo
wk 1-12 test prop

sound good?

BTW is Halo the steroid that will make you the strongest out of ALL steroids period? like no matter how many steroids i tried over time, would halo be the one i get the most strength gains from?

well
assuming all factors are similar, diet, training, rest etc...
and with the disclaimer some drugs affect people differently

...yes

**goose** · 08-15-2008, 06:31 PM

The amazing thing about halo is it is mild as var for your natty,its just it has to break 3 bonds down for your liver,love it and hate tren .....

**Michael Scott** · 08-15-2008, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

please stay on topic, thanks. But you are correct, nonetheless.

What are you the teacher or something

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Michael Scott

What are you the teacher or something

its his thread

**Michael Scott** · 08-15-2008, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

its his thread

No shit sherlock. That doesn't mean he's the supreme ruler of this thread and he can just bark out order like stay on topic when I make one post disagreeing with somebody about Tren . Which was basically on topic too. I have a thread about Tren on the front page and it went way off topic but not going to disrespect the people who I'm asking for help , like this OP did.

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Michael Scott

No shit sherlock. That doesn't mean he's the supreme ruler of this thread and he can just bark out order like stay on topic when I make one post disagreeing with somebody about Tren. Which was basically on topic too. I have a thread about Tren on the front page and it went way off topic but not going to disrespect the people who I'm asking for help , like this OP did.

good thing you didnt help at all
AARs dont matter here
please explain why
test = 100/100
tren = 500/500
halo = 1900/850

but tren has more sides and builds more mass
explain how the aar was relavent to this thread
all out strength halo vs tren

anyone can quote a profile, good job

**football3355** · 08-15-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Michael Scott

No shit sherlock. That doesn't mean he's the supreme ruler of this thread and he can just bark out order like stay on topic when I make one post disagreeing with somebody about Tren. Which was basically on topic too. I have a thread about Tren on the front page and it went way off topic but not going to disrespect the people who I'm asking for help , like this OP did.

wow dude i just asked you stay on topic. Im not teacker nor a supreme ruler, so stop flaming. Honestly I made this thread to answer serious questions about my cycle. If I wanted to know how tren was compared to test then I would search or start a topic tren vs test. This thread is HALO vs tren. Sorry i sparked a fire in your pants or that tren is gettin to ya, but stating something irrelevant to the topic is just annoying because as I read, I am looking for answers about my question, not something i could put in the topic next door or something. Again, sorry for pissin u off bro. BTW how did i disrespect you? I said please stay on topic, PLEASE bro. And i even said you were RIGHT. I see no disrespect there

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 08-15-2008, 11:19 PM

Run them both.

Test
Tren
Halo

And watch yourself turn into the devil in 12 weeks. Sweet shiz.

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Run them both.

Test
Tren
Halo

And watch yourself turn into the devil in 12 weeks. Sweet shiz.

i couldnt do that i have temper issues
npp/halo
or
tren/var for me personally

**football3355** · 08-15-2008, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

i couldnt do that i have temper issues
npp/halo
or
tren/var for me personally

me too. And I mean bad. But my gf and my family said they'd be a little more lenient when im on cycle when they come to visit or when i come home during holidays. So if I am dieting well. I plan to run bulking wise to help the test but tons of protein (1.5xlb body weight) for the halo. It will be a clean bulk, with tons of fish, chicken, pasta (healthy type), etc. I want solid muscle not bulk, and pure strength that is retainable. My training will be....well this where I am stuck. I know, for me, I get the strongest lifting heavy as eff, but I am not sure if that is how halo works. Will do more research. As for pct, a solid nolva/proviron routine next day after last test prop injection for 4 weeeks

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

me too. And I mean bad. But my gf and my family said they'd be a little more lenient when im on cycle when they come to visit or when i come home during holidays. So if I am dieting well. I plan to run bulking wise to help the test but tons of protein (1.5xlb body weight) for the halo. It will be a clean bulk, with tons of fish, chicken, pasta (healthy type), etc. I want solid muscle not bulk, and pure strength that is retainable. My training will be....well this where I am stuck. I know, for me, I get the strongest lifting heavy as eff, but I am not sure if that is how halo works. Will do more research. As for pct, a solid nolva/proviron routine next day after last test prop injection for 4 weeeks

be sure to put your time in here too bro!!
good job man

diet
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 08-15-2008, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

i couldnt do that i have temper issues
npp/halo
or
tren/var for me personally

lol you and that damn temper.

Did they kick you out of anger management again?

**football3355** · 08-15-2008, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

lol you and that damn temper.

Did they kick you out of anger management again?

lol. I know you were talking to one8nine, but I remember in my junior year of highschool my mom wanted me to sign myself up for anger management classes lol. I would get pissed 24/7 because of my AP classes(bitch). Anyways, I looked over your info one8nine, and thats some good ass info. Tons of suggestions on food intake. Alot of stuff I completely forgot to put in my diet, always room for improvement. But glad I took a look at that, will use again for reference. So I understand what diet I am going to use, and I know test prop can be used for cutting or for bulking(preferably, to me, bulking), but what about Halo, never really seen anything about when people use it. I know cutting sounds great for it, but I don't want to cut, I want to gain mass (lean though), but I am more concerned about strength. Does Halo work well in bulking diets? Also, before I make a final decision after doing some diet planning, is Halo truely the best strength option I have? I want PURE strength, a ton of it. Thanks again one8nine for the info, helpful as usual

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 08-16-2008, 12:01 AM

Halo isn't ideal for a bulker.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 08-16-2008, 12:02 AM

lol you needed anger management because of ap classes? hahaha Thats awesome

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 08-16-2008, 12:04 AM

halo, test, and a bad-ass power-lifting routine.

You will be lifting up houses in no time.

**one8nine** · 08-16-2008, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

lol you and that damn temper.

Did they kick you out of anger management again?

i just microwave lizzards
or put a sock on my dogs head and watch him run into walls
thats my release

**one8nine** · 08-16-2008, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by football3355

lol. I know you were talking to one8nine, but I remember in my junior year of highschool my mom wanted me to sign myself up for anger management classes lol. I would get pissed 24/7 because of my AP classes(bitch). Anyways, I looked over your info one8nine, and thats some good ass info. Tons of suggestions on food intake. Alot of stuff I completely forgot to put in my diet, always room for improvement. But glad I took a look at that, will use again for reference. So I understand what diet I am going to use, and I know test prop can be used for cutting or for bulking(preferably, to me, bulking), but what about Halo, never really seen anything about when people use it. I know cutting sounds great for it, but I don't want to cut, I want to gain mass (lean though), but I am more concerned about strength. Does Halo work well in bulking diets? Also, before I make a final decision after doing some diet planning, is Halo truely the best strength option I have? I want PURE strength, a ton of it. Thanks again one8nine for the info, helpful as usual

switch some of those pasta meals out for potatoes too
halo wont do much at all for size i gained like 3 pounds in 4 weeks halo only like 70mg ed
halo is #1 for strength/hardness, sucks for anything else
prop is plenty to bulk though

**football3355** · 08-16-2008, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by one8nine

switch some of those pasta meals out for potatoes too
halo wont do much at all for size i gained like 3 pounds in 4 weeks halo only like 70mg ed
halo is #1 for strength/hardness, sucks for anything else
prop is plenty to bulk though

yup i know halo sucks for bulk.....which idc about. See I am only adding test prop to solidify halo strength gains. If I happen to gain some bulk(lean) with prop, then so be it, but my main goal is all out strength with halo. And yes, bigsexy ap classes made me pissed since i cared so much about my grades and college. So as for halo with prop and using a sorta bulking cycle, for mad strength gains, Halo will still have its insane strength effects even if I clean bulk, right? like i said, prop is there only to solidify halos strength gains

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 08-16-2008, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by football3355

yup i know halo sucks for bulk.....which idc about. See I am only adding test prop to solidify halo strength gains. If I happen to gain some bulk(lean) with prop, then so be it, but my main goal is all out strength with halo. And yes, bigsexy ap classes made me pissed since i cared so much about my grades and college. So as for halo with prop and using a sorta bulking cycle, for mad strength gains, Halo will still have its insane strength effects even if I clean bulk, right? like i said, prop is there only to solidify halos strength gains

yes.

**football3355** · 08-16-2008, 01:32 AM

are you sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol? Sorry, just really need insurance because this is my last year in s jc before I get transfered to Fullerton and I want to go out with a bang for baseball. I need enormous strength to hit more bombs this year. I dont need any mistakes (not saying you are wrong whatsoever man) I meant my choices.