All Out Strength: Halotestin vs Tren

[football3355]

Extremely curious, all the talk about Tren being one of the best aas ever created, but in terms of strength: is it better than Halotestin? I know Halo is used primarily for strength, but which would skyrocket your strength better?

[powerliftmike]

Halo for just strength. tren will have more dramatic effects on the physique tho

[Bigmax]

Tren bro...IMO anyway...used Halo but felt more on how hard i got in terms of the look...Then again individuality will show different views.

[powerliftmike]

Extremely curious, all the talk about Tren being one of the best aas ever created, but in terms of strength: is it better than Halotestin? I know Halo is used primarily for strength, but which would skyrocket your strength better?

And the best steroid ever created is testosterone, not tren. That's why mother nature uses it

[Bigmax]

Yeah Test is the format !!!!

[one8nine]

Halo for just strength. tren will have more dramatic effects on the physique tho

#2 this^^

imo 1-10

tren-
cut/size: 8
strength: 8

halo-
cut/size: 3
strength: 10

[PT]

there isnt a drug out there that has made me as strong as halo has

[Maverick_J8]

there isnt a drug out there that has made me as strong as halo has

What kind of dosages do you run, and have you managed to keep all strength gains?

["Maximus"]

@ Mav,

From what I've seen/researched so far, Tren/Halo (50mg/30mg) for beginners. Also, in order to keep gains, your PCT/wkout will rule how much of your strength gains you get to keep.

["Maximus"]

I've seen other, advanced users, using higher doses in their cycles but IMO, it's good to keep it low if you're not that experieced...

[jstraw428]

For pure strength, halo is top dog.......I only use it in the final weeks of contest prep....it allows me to continue grueling workouts, even though i am energy depleted from severe dieting......I have run it at 50mg ed for 3wks, and by the end, my lower back pumps were almost unbearable.....very hard on your body....

[football3355]

#2 this^^

imo 1-10

tren-
cut/size: 8
strength: 8

halo-
cut/size: 3
strength: 10

sounds good thanks for the info. I am going to take Halo with test prop in a cycle for lean muscle gain (~10lbs) but mostly for HUGE strength gains. I need it for the upcoming baseball season. Plan on running Halo for the first 4 weeks of the cycle and then just continue to run test prop for a total of 10 weeks.

Halo: wk 1-4
test prop: wk 1-10

this sound good? I am not 100% sure this is the correct place in the cycle to put Halo, but it makes sense. Any critique is greatly appreciated guys!

[Michael Scott]

And the best steroid ever created is testosterone, not tren. That's why mother nature uses it

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

[football3355]

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

please stay on topic, thanks. But you are correct, nonetheless.

[one8nine]

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

cool it has a higher a/a ratio
lets see you live on tren only the rest of your life, no test
halo is like 15x as anabolic, 8x as androgenic as test einstein

[one8nine]

sounds good thanks for the info. I am going to take Halo with test prop in a cycle for lean muscle gain (~10lbs) but mostly for HUGE strength gains. I need it for the upcoming baseball season. Plan on running Halo for the first 4 weeks of the cycle and then just continue to run test prop for a total of 10 weeks.

Halo: wk 1-4
test prop: wk 1-10

this sound good? I am not 100% sure this is the correct place in the cycle to put Halo, but it makes sense. Any critique is greatly appreciated guys!

i like it
run test longer to help solidify the halo gains

[arenawarrior]

189 for prez!

[football3355]

i like it
run test longer to help solidify the halo gains

awsome thanks. Heres what I am thinking:

wk 1-4 halo
wk 1-12 test prop

sound good?

BTW is Halo the steroid that will make you the strongest out of ALL steroids period? like no matter how many steroids i tried over time, would halo be the one i get the most strength gains from?

[Flex-Appeal]

look at the thread stallion_1 just posted. Self explanatory ...

[one8nine]

awsome thanks. Heres what I am thinking:

wk 1-4 halo
wk 1-12 test prop

sound good?

BTW is Halo the steroid that will make you the strongest out of ALL steroids period? like no matter how many steroids i tried over time, would halo be the one i get the most strength gains from?

well
assuming all factors are similar, diet, training, rest etc...
and with the disclaimer some drugs affect people differently

...yes

[goose]

The amazing thing about halo is it is mild as var for your natty,its just it has to break 3 bonds down for your liver,love it and hate tren.....

[Michael Scott]

please stay on topic, thanks. But you are correct, nonetheless.

What are you the teacher or something

[one8nine]

What are you the teacher or something

its his thread

[Michael Scott]

its his thread

No shit sherlock. That doesn't mean he's the supreme ruler of this thread and he can just bark out order like stay on topic when I make one post disagreeing with somebody about Tren. Which was basically on topic too. I have a thread about Tren on the front page and it went way off topic but not going to disrespect the people who I'm asking for help , like this OP did.

[one8nine]

No shit sherlock. That doesn't mean he's the supreme ruler of this thread and he can just bark out order like stay on topic when I make one post disagreeing with somebody about Tren. Which was basically on topic too. I have a thread about Tren on the front page and it went way off topic but not going to disrespect the people who I'm asking for help , like this OP did.

good thing you didnt help at all
AARs dont matter here
please explain why
test = 100/100
tren = 500/500
halo = 1900/850

but tren has more sides and builds more mass
explain how the aar was relavent to this thread
all out strength halo vs tren

anyone can quote a profile, good job

[football3355]

No shit sherlock. That doesn't mean he's the supreme ruler of this thread and he can just bark out order like stay on topic when I make one post disagreeing with somebody about Tren. Which was basically on topic too. I have a thread about Tren on the front page and it went way off topic but not going to disrespect the people who I'm asking for help , like this OP did.

wow dude i just asked you stay on topic. Im not teacker nor a supreme ruler, so stop flaming. Honestly I made this thread to answer serious questions about my cycle. If I wanted to know how tren was compared to test then I would search or start a topic tren vs test. This thread is HALO vs tren. Sorry i sparked a fire in your pants or that tren is gettin to ya, but stating something irrelevant to the topic is just annoying because as I read, I am looking for answers about my question, not something i could put in the topic next door or something. Again, sorry for pissin u off bro. BTW how did i disrespect you? I said please stay on topic, PLEASE bro. And i even said you were RIGHT. I see no disrespect there

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Run them both.

Test
Tren
Halo




And watch yourself turn into the devil in 12 weeks. Sweet shiz.

[one8nine]

Run them both.

Test
Tren
Halo




And watch yourself turn into the devil in 12 weeks. Sweet shiz.

i couldnt do that i have temper issues
npp/halo
or
tren/var for me personally

[football3355]

i couldnt do that i have temper issues
npp/halo
or
tren/var for me personally

me too. And I mean bad. But my gf and my family said they'd be a little more lenient when im on cycle when they come to visit or when i come home during holidays. So if I am dieting well. I plan to run bulking wise to help the test but tons of protein (1.5xlb body weight) for the halo. It will be a clean bulk, with tons of fish, chicken, pasta (healthy type), etc. I want solid muscle not bulk, and pure strength that is retainable. My training will be....well this where I am stuck. I know, for me, I get the strongest lifting heavy as eff, but I am not sure if that is how halo works. Will do more research. As for pct, a solid nolva/proviron routine next day after last test prop injection for 4 weeeks

[one8nine]

me too. And I mean bad. But my gf and my family said they'd be a little more lenient when im on cycle when they come to visit or when i come home during holidays. So if I am dieting well. I plan to run bulking wise to help the test but tons of protein (1.5xlb body weight) for the halo. It will be a clean bulk, with tons of fish, chicken, pasta (healthy type), etc. I want solid muscle not bulk, and pure strength that is retainable. My training will be....well this where I am stuck. I know, for me, I get the strongest lifting heavy as eff, but I am not sure if that is how halo works. Will do more research. As for pct, a solid nolva/proviron routine next day after last test prop injection for 4 weeeks

be sure to put your time in here too bro!!
good job man

diet
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

i couldnt do that i have temper issues
npp/halo
or
tren/var for me personally

lol you and that damn temper.


Did they kick you out of anger management again?

[football3355]

lol you and that damn temper.


Did they kick you out of anger management again?

lol. I know you were talking to one8nine, but I remember in my junior year of highschool my mom wanted me to sign myself up for anger management classes lol. I would get pissed 24/7 because of my AP classes(bitch). Anyways, I looked over your info one8nine, and thats some good ass info. Tons of suggestions on food intake. Alot of stuff I completely forgot to put in my diet, always room for improvement. But glad I took a look at that, will use again for reference. So I understand what diet I am going to use, and I know test prop can be used for cutting or for bulking(preferably, to me, bulking), but what about Halo, never really seen anything about when people use it. I know cutting sounds great for it, but I don't want to cut, I want to gain mass (lean though), but I am more concerned about strength. Does Halo work well in bulking diets? Also, before I make a final decision after doing some diet planning, is Halo truely the best strength option I have? I want PURE strength, a ton of it. Thanks again one8nine for the info, helpful as usual

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Halo isn't ideal for a bulker.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

lol you needed anger management because of ap classes? hahaha Thats awesome

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

halo, test, and a bad-ass power-lifting routine.


You will be lifting up houses in no time.

[one8nine]

lol you and that damn temper.


Did they kick you out of anger management again?

i just microwave lizzards
or put a sock on my dogs head and watch him run into walls
thats my release

[one8nine]

lol. I know you were talking to one8nine, but I remember in my junior year of highschool my mom wanted me to sign myself up for anger management classes lol. I would get pissed 24/7 because of my AP classes(bitch). Anyways, I looked over your info one8nine, and thats some good ass info. Tons of suggestions on food intake. Alot of stuff I completely forgot to put in my diet, always room for improvement. But glad I took a look at that, will use again for reference. So I understand what diet I am going to use, and I know test prop can be used for cutting or for bulking(preferably, to me, bulking), but what about Halo, never really seen anything about when people use it. I know cutting sounds great for it, but I don't want to cut, I want to gain mass (lean though), but I am more concerned about strength. Does Halo work well in bulking diets? Also, before I make a final decision after doing some diet planning, is Halo truely the best strength option I have? I want PURE strength, a ton of it. Thanks again one8nine for the info, helpful as usual

switch some of those pasta meals out for potatoes too
halo wont do much at all for size i gained like 3 pounds in 4 weeks halo only like 70mg ed
halo is #1 for strength/hardness, sucks for anything else
prop is plenty to bulk though

[football3355]

switch some of those pasta meals out for potatoes too
halo wont do much at all for size i gained like 3 pounds in 4 weeks halo only like 70mg ed
halo is #1 for strength/hardness, sucks for anything else
prop is plenty to bulk though

yup i know halo sucks for bulk.....which idc about. See I am only adding test prop to solidify halo strength gains. If I happen to gain some bulk(lean) with prop, then so be it, but my main goal is all out strength with halo. And yes, bigsexy ap classes made me pissed since i cared so much about my grades and college. So as for halo with prop and using a sorta bulking cycle, for mad strength gains, Halo will still have its insane strength effects even if I clean bulk, right? like i said, prop is there only to solidify halos strength gains

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

yup i know halo sucks for bulk.....which idc about. See I am only adding test prop to solidify halo strength gains. If I happen to gain some bulk(lean) with prop, then so be it, but my main goal is all out strength with halo. And yes, bigsexy ap classes made me pissed since i cared so much about my grades and college. So as for halo with prop and using a sorta bulking cycle, for mad strength gains, Halo will still have its insane strength effects even if I clean bulk, right? like i said, prop is there only to solidify halos strength gains

yes.

[football3355]

are you sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol? Sorry, just really need insurance because this is my last year in s jc before I get transfered to Fullerton and I want to go out with a bang for baseball. I need enormous strength to hit more bombs this year. I dont need any mistakes (not saying you are wrong whatsoever man) I meant my choices.