DNP and getting pregnant.

[Vergil]

My fiance wants to use DNP before our wedding in October. I think she is a ****ing idiot but there is no stopping her. She is only going to take 200mgs for 12 days.

The thing is , I want kids. I cant find anything about DNP ****ing with womens reproductive organs so I was wondering if you guys knew anything. If it does, I will flush that shit down the toilet. Please help me out fellas.

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

Sorry bro theres never been any evidence that dnp affect womens fertility.

[Vergil]

Sorry bro theres never been any evidence that dnp affect womens fertility.

Thank you for the help, but that actually pisses me off lol. I dont want her to take it.

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

Thank you for the help, but that actually pisses me off lol. I dont want her to take it.

Well dont let her. Grow some balls.

[Vergil]

Well dont let her. Grow some balls.

I am all about being fair though. I am running test and A-bombs right now so I cant be a hypocrite!

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

I am all about being fair though. I am running test and A-bombs right now so I cant be a hypocrite!

Yes you can.

[JiGGaMaN]

I would tell her to quit being such a lazy ass and get on a treadmill.

[HORSE~]

I don't have time tonight to look up articles and post links at the moment but yes I do believe that DNP can pose a great threat to an unborn fetus....


DNP is a poison and should be treated as one, I would strongly advise against it's use especially if your wife intends to become pregnant....

[Vergil]

I would tell her to quit being such a lazy ass and get on a treadmill.

She is very active and is just having problems dropping the last 10 pounds, I am her trainer.

I don't have time tonight to look up articles and post links at the moment but yes I do believe that DNP can pose a great threat to an unborn fetus....


DNP is a poison and should be treated as one, I would strongly advise against it's use especially if your wife intends to become pregnant....

I am talking about in the future man. I dont think anyone is stupid enough to take DNP while pregnant!

[JiGGaMaN]

Fair enough, but theres almost an infinite number of ways other than DNP to lose weight.

[WARMachine]

I am all about being fair though. I am running test and A-bombs right now so I cant be a hypocrite!

Dude yeah you can...

Where is she gonna get it?

Probably through you right? If so, problem solved!

Not to mention if she throws the hypocrite card at you, tell her the truth, it doesnt matter, whether she wants to here it or not, these things are different for men than for women!

[Vergil]

Dude yeah you can...

Where is she gonna get it?

Probably through you right? If so, problem solved!

Not to mention if she throws the hypocrite card at you, tell her the truth, it doesnt matter, whether she wants to here it or not, these things are different for men than for women!

She has it right now! I never gave it to her man, she has a friend who is a fitness competitor who sells her anavar and clen. My fiance keeps it at her house and I have no idea where she lives.

Me and her had a talk today that if she truly wants to do it she has to do it safely. I kind of changed my mind, she made a convincing argument. 12 days at 200 mgs a day wont hurt anybody.

[widescreen]

My fiance keeps it at her house and I have no idea where she lives.

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[james21]

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hahah you have no idea where your fiance lives ? I think you have some bigger probs

[Vergil]

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hahah you have no idea where your fiance lives ? I think you have some bigger probs

That was worded poorly... I meant she kept it at her friends house and I have no idea where her friend lives.

[jstraw428]

i was gonna say, if you dont know where your fiance lives, you have some major problems already.....

I dont think 12 days at 200mgs sounds too harsh of a cycle.......why not just let her do it, and just help her monitor herself, so she doesnt hurt herself......

[JiGGaMaN]

She has it right now! I never gave it to her man, she has a friend who is a fitness competitor who sells her anavar and clen. My fiance keeps it at her house and I have no idea where she lives.

Me and her had a talk today that if she truly wants to do it she has to do it safely. I kind of changed my mind, she made a convincing argument. 12 days at 200 mgs a day wont hurt anybody.

I was going to say, my mom is a gym rat and has better connects than i do for sure. So shes likely able to procure just about anything from anyone.

[WARMachine]

Alright, well it is what it is, just monitor her progress and make sure she doesnt hurt herself.

Good luck!

[Vergil]

Thanks every body, you guys rock!

[RANA]

I don't have time tonight to look up articles and post links at the moment but yes I do believe that DNP can pose a great threat to an unborn fetus....


DNP is a poison and should be treated as one, I would strongly advise against it's use especially if your wife intends to become pregnant....

WOW, HORSE is so right. I have been reading up on DNP for the last few months. Women should never ever take it!

[magic32]

Firstly, on a human note to the Vergil.
If you're her fiancée and trainer but are unable to prevent her from taking poisonous chemicals, you might want to reconsider the former title. I'm not exactly anti-matrimonial, but if she can't respect your authority with regard to her health and safety in something this specific, your future happiness is in jeopardy.

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Sorry bro theres never been any evidence that dnp affect womens fertility.

It's there, we just need to know where to look!

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WOW, HORSE is so right. I have been reading up on DNP for the last few months. Women should never ever take it!

NO HUMAN BEING PERIOD!

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I don't have time tonight to look up articles and post links at the moment but yes I do believe that DNP can pose a great threat to an unborn fetus....

DNP is a poison and should be treated as one, I would strongly advise against it's use especially if your wife intends to become pregnant....

Truer words were never spoken.
Permit me Horse, one of the pieces I’m presently writing a comprehensive informational on the POISON DNP (what it is, why its dangerous, why it's futile anyway, FAQ's, etc.).

2.2.2.5 Reproductive Effects
Three case reports and a clinical study described reproductive effects in women taking 2,4-DNP for weight reduction. A young girl who subsequently died after taking 1.03 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP was found to have a small and infantile uterus and numerous follicular cysts in the ovary (Goldman and Haber 1936). Physical examination of a woman who took 2.32 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP revealed fibroid degeneration of the uterus and a cystic left ovary (Beinhauer 1934). Whether or not these were preexisting conditions is not known. A patient who had been taking 3.3 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP as the sodium salt for 98 days was found to be pregnant (Epstein and Rosenblum 1935). After taking the drug for an additional 45 days, she was hospitalized for profuse vaginal bleeding, and no evidence of a fetus was found. The authors concluded the 2,4-DNP caused a premature separation of the placenta, resulting in miscarriage. In an extensive clinical study of 159 patients taking 3 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP as the sodium salt for 22-89 days, altered menstrual cycles or amenorrhea developed in 15 of an unspecified number of women (Simkins 1937a, 1937b). In addition, 18 of an unspecified number of women experienced excessive menstrual edema. The author noted that most menstrual disorders common in obese women can be corrected by proper diet, but because the menstrual changes in many of the women in the study were so marked and occurred so soon after 2,4-DNP dosing (i.e., before any significant weight loss), he concluded that the altered menstrual cycles were due to a direct action of 2,4-DNP.

www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp64-c2.pdf

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I am talking about in the future man. I dont think anyone is stupid enough to take DNP while pregnant!

Boggles the mind doesn't it, but see the third case report above.

[jstraw428]

good job Magic, always good to hear you chime in, especially when it comes to DNP......

[KatsMeow]

Great info magic!

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

2.2.2.5 Reproductive Effects
Three case reports and a clinical study described reproductive effects in women taking 2,4-DNP for weight reduction. A young girl who subsequently died after taking 1.03 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP was found to have a small and infantile uterus and numerous follicular cysts in the ovary (Goldman and Haber 1936). Physical examination of a woman who took 2.32 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP revealed fibroid degeneration of the uterus and a cystic left ovary (Beinhauer 1934). Whether or not these were preexisting conditions is not known. A patient who had been taking 3.3 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP as the sodium salt for 98 days was found to be pregnant (Epstein and Rosenblum 1935). After taking the drug for an additional 45 days, she was hospitalized for profuse vaginal bleeding, and no evidence of a fetus was found. The authors concluded the 2,4-DNP caused a premature separation of the placenta, resulting in miscarriage. In an extensive clinical study of 159 patients taking 3 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP as the sodium salt for 22-89 days, altered menstrual cycles or amenorrhea developed in 15 of an unspecified number of women (Simkins 1937a, 1937b). In addition, 18 of an unspecified number of women experienced excessive menstrual edema. The author noted that most menstrual disorders common in obese women can be corrected by proper diet, but because the menstrual changes in many of the women in the study were so marked and occurred so soon after 2,4-DNP dosing (i.e., before any significant weight loss), he concluded that the altered menstrual cycles were due to a direct action of 2,4-DNP.

www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp64-c2.pdf

Good info Magic, i wouldnt say this study is something would refer to as a study for dnp as its too old and as stated in the document they had limitations such as no concurrent,matched, or placebo treated control group which wouldnt happen a study today which breeds discrepiances, there needs be an upto date study in a fairer enviroment where yes such things as above will be done in todays era.
The author has stated he has only come to a conclusion which from his study does seem like its plausable and am not disagreeing for one second but this study has no hard solid evidence that backs up his conclusions which of course is was the 1930's so im not disrespecting his study in anyway as it does build a foundation for further studies in todays time and he could be completely right. Is there any up to date studies? I cant find any but would be interested if there are or if there are any planned anywhere in the future? I see in the document a texan physician administering dnp to his patients did he keep a study or record?

[magic32]

Sup super?
Just some comments.

Good info Magic, i wouldnt say this study is something would refer to as a study for dnp as its too old
AGE IS NOT RELEVANT HERE EITHER THE REPORTS WERE RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY ATTRIBUTED TO DNP.

and as stated in the document they had limitations such as no concurrent,matched, or placebo treated control group which wouldnt happen a study today which breeds discrepiances,
MAYBE YOU MISREAD, AS ONLY THE 159 PATIENT STUDY AT THE END WAS AN ACTUAL CLINICAL STUDY, THE OTHERS AS CITED INITIALLY (IN THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE) WERE A DIFFERENT KIND OF RESEARCH CALLED CASE REPORTS, I.E. SPECIFIC TO A SINGLE CASE BUT NO LESS TRUE.

The author has stated he has only come to a conclusion which from his study does seem like its plausable and am not disagreeing for one second but this study has no hard solid evidence that backs up his conclusions which of course is was the 1930's so im not disrespecting his study in anyway as it does build a foundation for further studies in todays time and he could be completely right.
ACTUALLY THE AUTHOR'S DEDUCTION WAS MERELY AS TO HOW DNP CAUSED THE FETAL DEMISE CITING "premature separation of the placenta" NOT THAT IT DID. FOR DEEPER INSIGHT YOU'D HAVE TO FOLLOW THE GIVEN CITITATION TO THE ACTUAL CASE STUDY/REPORT.

Is there any up to date studies?
I SURMISE, THAT BECAUSE DNP USE WAS SO PERVASIVE AT THE TIME, IT WAS MORE READILY RESEARCHED, MONITORED, AND REPORTED. IN TODAY'S AGE OF ENLIGHTENMENT IT IS FAR MORE EXPECTED THAT ONE WOULD NEVER KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY ADMINISTER SUCH A TOXIC/POISONOUS CHEMICAL. A THEORY WHICH WOULD CONSEQUENTLY, AND LOGICALLY, YIELD FAR LESS CONCERN FOR IT...OTHER THAN CASE REPORTS ON UNINTENTIONAL EXPOSURE.

I see in the document a texan physician administering dnp to his patients did he keep a study or record?
SORRY, I SIMPLY RECALLED READING THIS IN MY REVIEW OF THE LITERATURE AND OFFERED IT IN RESPONSE TO THE INITIAL POSTER'S CALL FOR RELEVANCE. FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE COMPLICATIONS DURING DNP USE IS NOT "THE" OR EVEN "A" TOPIC OF MY PIECE'S CONCERN. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO RESEARCH IT FURTHER AS ALL THE REFERENCES ARE CITED.

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

Sup super?
Just some comments.

Im good bro. u?

Thanks for your responses i'll look further into it. Thanks