Cycle ideas

[Ameer88]

hi

am coming to being 20 165 lbs been training for 3 years want to get ready for rugby and want to get a bit bigger not drasticly though maybe something abit mild or low dose iam on a good diet 6 meals a day high cal and protein done alot of research and have decided to get on a steroids just a little help in whats the best to go on and how much also with as little sides as poss or things that will help avoid the sides finally whats the best protein shakes and weight gainers you guys are using i am getting sick of trial and error cause there so expensive also anyone heard of twin labs how good is it there weight gainer has 1800 cals any good

[one8nine]

height
bf%
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge

weight gainers suck lay out your entire diet let me see what you ate yesterday

[RANA]

height
bf%
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge

weight gainers suck lay out your entire diet let me see what you ate yesterday

Same questions^^^^

[Ameer88]

am about 5 8
11% body fat
work out every other day
one muscle group twice a week with heaviest weights however still doing the lift right 10 reps 3 sets

yday in breif

6 egg whites 1 yolk
protein shake
fruit
oats

fruit
protein bar

tuna
pasta
salad

protein shake
baked pot

workout

protein shake

chicken breast/turkey
rice
veg

protein shake

thanks about it yday

[Bigmax]

you can bring your carbs a bit...didnt see any good fats included...how many grams of protein bro???..you listed the protein but not how much...otherwise I think you're using too many protein shakes...not enuff solid food.

[RANA]

No protein bars (Crap), too many shakes, you need more meats (fish, chicken, lean ground beef, etc...)

[Ameer88]

ye i mentioned it all breif i do have alot of chicken beef nuts seends etc am on about 220 250g protein the shakes are 18g protien per shake i am considering test but unsure on which one been told there no different really test is test run it at twice a week 2 inj at 250mgs each whats sides can i expect and what pct is suitable

[redz]

test is test run it at twice a week 2 inj at 250mgs each whats sides can i expect and what pct is suitable

Though test is test some esters require different injection frequencies. Test E or Test C can be shot every 3.5 days but prop,sustanon, and suspension all have much more frequent injections. Also there is a search button to find out about pct. Don`t expect people to spoon feed you all of the information. We are here to help but you need to research some things for yourself.

[WARMachine]

Ok dude, first off, stop starting the same threads over and again....

First thread: --> http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=356874

Like i said THE FIRST TIME!

5'8 165lbs and 11%BF

You have a diet issue.

6 egg whites 1 yolk
protein shake
fruit
oats

fruit
protein bar

tuna
pasta
salad

protein shake
baked pot

workout

protein shake

chicken breast/turkey
rice
veg

protein shake



dude youre only eating 3 REAL meals a day.

You need more protein from food, taking 4 shakes a day and gettin 140gms is not the same as 140gms from food!

1) Youre not eating nearly enough
2) missing healthy fats ( fish oil, nut oils ect)
3) you need more complex carbs, i.e. potatoes, lentis, etc...
4) You aren't weighing your food
5) 6 smaller meals throughout the day will keep you in a positive nitrogen balance.
6) 60-100 total from shakes is fine. youre takin too much!

you need to be trolling the diet section

You are NOT ready for AAS!

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 Read all the stickies in this link, and when youre done, read them again!


As far as PCT:

read this!: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77


Search for it, its pretty basic for Test E@500mg a week.

[RANA]

Ok dude, first off, stop starting the same threads over and again....

First thread: --> http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=356874

Like i said THE FIRST TIME!

5'8 165lbs and 11%BF

You have a diet issue.

6 egg whites 1 yolk
protein shake
fruit
oats

fruit
protein bar

tuna
pasta
salad

protein shake
baked pot

workout

protein shake

chicken breast/turkey
rice
veg

protein shake



dude youre only eating 3 REAL meals a day.

You need more protein from food, taking 4 shakes a day and gettin 140gms is not the same as 140gms from food!

1) Youre not eating nearly enough
2) missing healthy fats ( fish oil, nut oils ect)
3) you need more complex carbs, i.e. potatoes, lentis, etc...
4) You aren't weighing your food
5) 6 smaller meals throughout the day will keep you in a positive nitrogen balance.
6) 60-100 total from shakes is fine. youre takin too much!

you need to be trolling the diet section

You are NOT ready for AAS!

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6 Read all the stickies in this link, and when youre done, read them again!


As far as PCT:

read this!: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77


Search for it, its pretty basic for Test E@500mg a week.

These threads are totally different, one is "Cycle Ideas" and the other is "Cycle help" See totally different...

[WARMachine]

hi

am coming to being 20 165 lbs been training for 3 years want to get ready for rugby and want to get a bit bigger not drasticly though maybe something abit mild or low dose iam on a good diet 6 meals a day high cal and protein done alot of research and have decided to get on a steroids just a little help in whats the best to go on and how much also with as little sides as poss or things that will help avoid the sides finally whats the best protein shakes and weight gainers you guys are using i am getting sick of trial and error cause there so expensive also anyone heard of twin labs how good is it there weight gainer has 1800 cals any good

i need some help on the best cycle for me i want to add a bit more mass not a huge amount in very little time though something low dose and with less sides as poss or supps that will prevent sides as much as poss ive done all my research and have made the choice iam almost 20 165 lbs and have been training for 3 years on a very good diet aswell high carb protein and cals.

cheers

oh weight gainers and protein any help on those as i am sick of trial and error on them there are just so many out offering 1800 cals per shake

These threads are totally different, one is "Cycle Ideas" and the other is "Cycle help" See totally different...

Riiiiight... Totally different!

[Ameer88]

lol your dumb man cycle help cycle ideas just a fibne line aint you got nothing better to do like heklp people if you can lol what a C**T

[Ameer88]

ive done the research myself am asking for opinions and your ideas go what is wront with you lot give you lot something like a forum and you think your above everyone cause youve been on it a while lol grow up

[JiGGaMaN]

Well, you aren't going to be earning yourself any favours like that now are you?

[JiGGaMaN]

Id recommend working on a way to get at least 6 non-shake meals in a day, and while you are doing this just keep reading and reading and reading. In about 6 months time you may find that you are growing more anyhow. You'll be smarter, bigger, and ready to stick needles in your bum.

[WARMachine]

ive done the research myself am asking for opinions and your ideas go what is wront with you lot give you lot something like a forum and you think your above everyone cause youve been on it a while lol grow up

lol your dumb man cycle help cycle ideas just a fibne line aint you got nothing better to do like heklp people if you can lol what a C**T

Wow the maturity from this guy? Did someones mommy wake him up too early this morning?
dude how old are you? 16 or 17? Nice grammar! And word association!

Ive only been here for a few months, i dont think im above anyone, as a matter of fact, i think im below a lot of guys. But i did do YEARS of research before doing a cycle and joining this website... Unlike you, who just wants to jump on a cycle cause youre tired of being a sad LITTLE man...

Your just pissy because im telling you what yo dont wanna hear, which is, you are too small, and need to do more research before trying AAS. You dont know what PCT is, you dont know what kinda cycle to run for a first timer, and you want everyone to give you the answers so you dont have to do anything yourself.

Its cool dude, youre not gonna last long anyway...

[WARMachine]

Id recommend working on a way to get at least 6 non-shake meals in a day, and while you are doing this just keep reading and reading and reading. In about 6 months time you may find that you are growing more anyhow. You'll be smarter, bigger, and ready to stick needles in your bum.

Not possible with this joker!

[Ameer88]

listen i have done research but there is so much out there saying differnt things and am askng for advice not for you to tell me what to do i want opinions i allready have my own ideas there are ways of putting things across without being horribe about it i have a goal i dont want to be huge i just need something for rugby coming up in 8 weeks for a game i know after i have alot of work to do with the diet iam taking all your advice no need for smart alic comments there is a way of getting things across everyiine starts somewhere and no am not good at spelling and grammer but am asking advice on something totally different there are some pathetic people on this site

[RANA]

listen i have done research but there is so much out there saying differnt things and am askng for advice not for you to tell me what to do i want opinions i allready have my own ideas there are ways of putting things across without being horribe about it i have a goal i dont want to be huge i just need something for rugby coming up in 8 weeks for a game i know after i have alot of work to do with the diet iam taking all your advice no need for smart alic comments there is a way of getting things across everyiine starts somewhere and no am not good at spelling and grammer but am asking advice on something totally different there are some pathetic people on this site

You have to realize that there are about 10-20 new people a day that come to this site and ask the same thing. They say the did there research but when they ask basic questions we realize that they have not done any reseach.

On this site some of use give other people shit, some of it joking and some of it serious. All I can say is do more research, we are all here to learn.

[jethro1]

U can find anything and everything on this site with the SEARCH BUTTON. Figure out what u would like to do after some research, then post it up and go from there.