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    Thumbs up What should I expect?

    This my first Cycle.. Weight training for 5 years
    Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
    Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
    Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST weekly
    Week 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
    Week 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
    Week 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

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    My goal is 185 lb 8% with diet and sound training. Do you think I can accomplish this with just one cycle?
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    I would drop the nolva during weeks 1-13, unless you need it (gyno). I would also drop the EQ on a first cycle and same it for another day. You may want to add some HCG for your PCT. Just run a simple test only cycle for your first. If have some good gear you should make some good gains. Hows your diet? Diet will dictate your gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostrich View Post
    I would drop the nolva during weeks 1-13, unless you need it (gyno). I would also drop the EQ on a first cycle and same it for another day. You may want to add some HCG for your PCT. Just run a simple test only cycle for your first. If have some good gear you should make some good gains. Hows your diet? Diet will dictate your gains.
    what does hcg do for pct?


    i say: keep nolva in, drop eq out (eq takes a really long time to kick in so youll be done as its starting to work).

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    diet alone will dictate fat loss and muscle gain. if this is your first cycle do the test only with pct and go do your homework just a little more.

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    Thanks for all the Suggestion

    I read your it's good to stack Test with either deca or d-bol, for the newie cycle from what I read? The reason I choose Eq is because it's the light steroid out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by freemansout2003 View Post
    This my first Cycle.. Weight training for 5 years
    Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
    Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
    Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST weekly
    Week 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
    Week 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
    Week 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

    26
    178
    12%
    5'10"

    My goal is 185 lb 8% with diet and sound training. Do you think I can accomplish this with just one cycle?
    Drop Nolvadex 1-13 week, drop EQ. I assume it is Test E? Have some L-dex on hand for gyno. Do 12 weeks of Test

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    Quote Originally Posted by freemansout2003 View Post
    I read your it's good to stack Test with either deca or d-bol, for the newie cycle from what I read? The reason I choose Eq is because it's the light steroid out there
    light is an understatment. non-exsistant would be a better description. run this and then run the exact same thing w/o the eq and you would not be able to tell the difference between the two. what do you expect to gain from the eq in this run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic View Post
    light is an understatment. non-exsistant would be a better description. run this and then run the exact same thing w/o the eq and you would not be able to tell the difference between the two. what do you expect to gain from the eq in this run?
    HATE HATE HATE. I would know exactly who posted this without looking at the name.

    But aside from that, it takes soooooooo long to kick in, and likewise to leave your system, it may be nothing more than a pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    HATE HATE HATE. I would know exactly who posted this without looking at the name.

    But aside from that, it takes soooooooo long to kick in, and likewise to leave your system, it may be nothing more than a pain in the ass.
    haha, yea I cant pass up an oppurtunity to bash eq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaju View Post
    diet alone will dictate fat loss and muscle gain. if this is your first cycle do the test only with pct and go do your homework just a little more.
    Good advice ^^ I would drop the EQ, its a worthless compound and not needed for your first cycle. Gains are all diet/training........best of luck

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    Drop the nolva, and the EQ.. or at least run the EQ longer...

    Probably not a good idea though, being your first cycle...

    Keep it simple

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    Ok, with test only anti estro isn't need or is it just need during pct

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    If you must run the EQ, I strongly suggest at least 12 weeks. It takes several weeks to fully kick in!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freemansout2003 View Post
    Ok, with test only anti estro isn't need or is it just need during pct

    Not sure, everyone is different. I've never had to run any anti e's even at BIG doses. But, it's always good to have on hand just in case!


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    ^^^ i would have some for PCT, never can be too safe...

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