tren? good or bad

**stacy88** · 08-21-2008, 08:00 PM

so what does anyone know about tren ? i got some and bout to take it. heard the side affects were outragus,but so were the gains. any info would be great

**stallion_1** · 08-21-2008, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by stacy88

so what does anyone know about tren? i got some and bout to take it. heard the side affects were outragus,but so were the gains. any info would be great

tren is an excellent and powerful roid. can be used for bulking or cutting.
5 times as powerful as test as indicated by its aa ratio. it should definitively be stacked with test, but if u use the search function without being lazy ull find more info.

**DSM4Life** · 08-21-2008, 08:03 PM

**stallion_1** · 08-21-2008, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

nice i like that

**football3355** · 08-21-2008, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

tren is an excellent and powerful roid. can be used for bulking or cutting.
5 times as powerful as test as indicated by its aa ratio. it should definitively be stacked with test, but if u use the search function without being lazy ull find more info.

are its gains more retainable than test?

**stallion_1** · 08-21-2008, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

are its gains more retainable than test?

yes, tren gains are far easier to retain so long as u have the proper diet.
test are sometimes harder to keep since a lot of the gains are water blow which will disappear.

**stacy88** · 08-21-2008, 08:21 PM

so everyone likes it huh? i have read about it for a few weeks i know the book reports on it. but i wanted to hear from some people that have taken it. thanx

**stacy88** · 08-21-2008, 08:23 PM

its profile reads like it makes ur body produse igf.does anyone know anything bout that?

**BIG-N-Brazil** · 08-21-2008, 08:24 PM

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**Ashop** · 08-21-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by stacy88

so what does anyone know about tren? i got some and bout to take it. heard the side affects were outragus,but so were the gains. any info would be great

do some research,,,look around here,,,google etc...
one of the strongest most effective AAS ever.

**football3355** · 08-21-2008, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

yes, tren gains are far easier to retain so long as u have the proper diet.
test are sometimes harder to keep since a lot of the gains are water blow which will disappear.

is 15-20 lbs of lean musclepossible on a tren cycle compared to a test cycle where like enanth it wouldnt be lean and youd probably gsin more weight

**TranscriptionFactor** · 08-21-2008, 09:18 PM

There was a good recent thread in the past week where people discussed their experience with Tren . Basically it is not ideal for beginners and you ought to know what sides to possibly expect.
Oh, found it, here is the thread
What were your experiences with Tren ?

**stallion_1** · 08-21-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

is 15-20 lbs of lean musclepossible on a tren cycle compared to a test cycle where like enanth it wouldnt be lean and youd probably gsin more weight

20 might be a stretch,

but ive used test prop and tren to gain a clean good looking 15 pounds.

if i was to use test enth stacked with either drol or dbol as well as deca i could easily gain 25 pounds. less clean of course

**stpete** · 08-22-2008, 04:17 AM

Not recommended if this is your 1st or 2nd cycle. What are your stats?

**Booz** · 08-22-2008, 04:44 AM

we cannot tell you how much you will gain on any cycle as gains are dependant on the individual,so what someone ''MAY'' gain on a certain cycle you possibly ''may'' not......................

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-22-2008, 07:37 AM

What is your cycle history? Tren is one crazy whacked out drug that WILL take a toll on you mentally! If you don't have several cycles under your belt, I strongly say stay away from it. IF you have a GF, well be prepared to test your relationship!

**jerrymaker** · 08-22-2008, 06:22 PM

You just have to try it, to judge for youself.... i had to stop it because i could not sleep. but i'll tell you this if everyone gained 15 lbs. of muscle we would all be 300lbs hulks, not gona happen. everyone says it's the best ever. well if you are under 10% bf and good diet, go for it. try it, everyone is different. sides were too bad for me.

**one8nine** · 08-22-2008, 07:28 PM

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**football3355** · 08-22-2008, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

20 might be a stretch,

but ive used test prop and tren to gain a clean good looking 15 pounds.

if i was to use test enth stacked with either drol or dbol as well as deca i could easily gain 25 pounds. less clean of course

25lbs after pct?

**stallion_1** · 08-22-2008, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

25lbs after pct?

if diet is right, yes

**football3355** · 08-22-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

if diet is right, yes

you mean eating a ton to support the new weight and tons of protein and proper pct?

**stallion_1** · 08-22-2008, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

you mean eating a ton to support the new weight and tons of protein and proper pct?

some will be water weight that will disappear right

if u are still in a surplus of calories as the water weight disappears, u will gain solid weight from eating to much, so it evens out and i dont usually see any major loss