drinking T-BOL

[ray0414]

So this guy i know at the gym says he's getting some tbol, and im pretty sure he said hes getting it in powder and making it into liquid, that u can just drink it(or drop it under tongue), has anyone ever done that before? im looking to gain 10, MAYBE 15 pounds, im 5'7 about 165 and been working out for about 8-9 years taking time off here and there for personal reasons.
another question, i hear it can be hard on your lipids, i drink lots of olive oil ever day, would this help com-bat that? diet over all is pretty good with no junk and no alcohol. i would also take milk thistle with it, and finish it off with nolva for 2 weeks afterwards.

[JiGGaMaN]

Well I can say the liquid thing isnt far-fetched at all. I've made and consumed quite a bit of it myself. Its really easy (not as easy a dbol) to suspend @ 40mg/ml. It will taste terrible, but id do it again.

[Billytk03z]

liquid????? I think its a hell of a lot easier just popping a tiny tab that dissolves instantly under the tongue than trying to mess with converting tbol to liquid... not to mention its easier to carry no mess tabs in a bottle in your gym bag, car, etc... than messing with messy liquid that can spill if dropped, etc... man, why do people try to reinvent the wheel???

[ray0414]

i think hes getting in powder form so he might have to. would it mess with anything if u were to mix it with a drink to cover the taste?

[Garbanzo Dude]

All I can say is heartburn!!

[JiGGaMaN]

i think hes getting in powder form so he might have to. would it mess with anything if u were to mix it with a drink to cover the taste?

Grapefruit juice. But i would make sure to fill up the cup again and make sure you get everything out because if you put it into a drink it will fall out of solution.

As for the guy talking about inventing wheels: Try capping your own powder, then try suspending it. Tell me which is easier and more accurate.

[ray0414]

anyone know anything about the lipid issue?

[TranscriptionFactor]

RE: Lipids

Not specific to Tbol, but it probably applies, the studies I have seen looked at Deca and its effect on lipids.
Conclusion: No changes in total cholesterol but decrease in HDL for the duration of use which normalizes after stopping cycle.

From PubMed
Metabolism. 1990 Feb;39(2):203-8

To determine the effects of anabolic steroids on serum lipid and apoprotein levels, 14 white male body builders who self-administered steroids for 2 to 3 months (steroid users) were studied; 10 agreed to screening while they were taking the drugs (ON treatment) and also at about 3 months following their suspension (OFF treatment). Controls consisted of 17 body builders who had never taken steroids (nonusers), and a group of 18 healthy sedentary subjects (controls). During the period of steroid administration, there was a slight reduction in total serum cholesterol, with a marked cholesterol decrease in the high-density lipoprotein (HDL) subfractions HDL2 and HDL3, and a significant reduction in the HDL2 cholesterol/HDL3 cholesterol ratio; the percentage of serum cholesterol transported by low-density lipoproteins (LDL) increased significantly. In addition, a marked apoprotein (apo) A-I reduction in the HDL2 and HDL3 subfractions was observed, as well as an apo A-II decrease that was significant only in the HDL3 subfraction, with an A-I/A-II ratio significantly reduced in both subfractions. Serum apo B was only slightly increased, with a very high B/A-I ratio. Apolipoprotein C-II and E levels showed no modifications, while apo C-III reduced significantly. Lipid and apoprotein values returned to almost normal levels in the OFF treatment period. Findings in the group of nonusers were similar to those in sedentary subjects. These results indicate that anabolic steroids profoundly alter the serum lipid-protein profile, and the changes may be caused in part by the significant differences observed in apoprotein levels.

This was just a quick search by me and it confirmed what I had already suspected, theat there is an unfavorable effect on HDL (The good cholesterol). So during cycle I suppose you could be more susceptible to increased atherosclerosis.
Eat a clean diet with olive oil and fish oil and you should be fine.

Anyone else with more complete or conflicting info please chime in.