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    Anavar-before it-while on it-coming off it.

    Before it i want to get tested for the hormones and chemicals that will be affected, if you guys could help me get a list of things taht would be helpful. So far i have. Oh and the dosage would be working up to 40mg for 4-6weeks.
    BEFORE IM ON IT
    (testi measurement (ruler))
    -Free serum testosterone (to check against after pct to make sure my test production is normal)
    -Bad cholesterol
    -Good cholesterol
    _BODYFAT AND BODYWEIGHT (im around 6-8% bf at the moment)

    WHILE ON IT
    ----make sure i eat several meals a day, force myself if i have to.
    -To combat cholesterol malfunctions etc id take policosanol (how much tho?)
    -Flax seed oil, same purpose (but how much aswell?)
    -om3ga 3's (site auto-edited the correct spelling for ommega (already on them, fish oil)
    -400 to 800 IU of Vitamin E, and 1,000 to 2,000 mg. of Vitamin C with each meal
    -Alpha Lipoic Acid (i read its a good liver detoxifier)
    -Midway through get tested again.

    ------any other liver detoxifiers reccomended?

    COMING OFF IT
    -Dont need nolva cuz its anti-estrogen and gyno, which var doesnt give.
    -Clomid to get my test back to normal, as well as my testi size.
    -Retest my levels once again.
    -Check weight and bf (for all stages pretty much)

    ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
    Firstly i live in Canada, so in my experience you get blood tests when your doctor prescribes one, so how do i go about getting one without some sort of prescription (IE: you feel fatigued they give you a mono spot test) I would prefer not lying to the doctor. (He gives you a sheet that has stuff checked off that they test for). Cuz unlike the US you cant just go in and pay for what you need. Any ideas for how i would be able to get the whole test thing going?

    *****can i just be blunt with the doctor and let him know what im taking the tests for? I mean are they bound by law to client confidentiality even concerning illegal substances?
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    definitely use the nolva instead of, or along with the clomid for pct. imo it would be a waste to get tested while on cycle since the var is so weak. maybe add in milk thistle if you want a little extra liver support. dont even worry bout the size of your nuts. chances are they will hardly shrink if any and then return back to normal relatively quickly.

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    Just dont bother getting one. Thats really asinine of you. Nothing going to thrown terribly off balance with a cycle like that. Also, by reading your post you are setting your self up for failure. You are trying to eat several meals a day? how many do you usually eat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    Just dont bother getting one. Thats really asinine of you. Nothing going to thrown terribly off balance with a cycle like that. Also, by reading your post you are setting your self up for failure. You are trying to eat several meals a day? how many do you usually eat?
    true dat. if you're ready to cycle you should have long had your diet in check

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    definitely use the nolva instead of, or along with the clomid for pct. imo it would be a waste to get tested while on cycle since the var is so weak. maybe add in milk thistle if you want a little extra liver support. dont even worry bout the size of your nuts. chances are they will hardly shrink if any and then return back to normal relatively quickly.
    Ya but isnt nolva for gyno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    Just dont bother getting one. Thats really asinine of you. Nothing going to thrown terribly off balance with a cycle like that. Also, by reading your post you are setting your self up for failure. You are trying to eat several meals a day? how many do you usually eat?
    Na man you have it wrong. I mean it's supposed to surpress your appetite right? But i need to eat to get stronger and repair muscle tissue, as well as just the raw energy I'll need. So if i dont feel hungry ill need to force myself to eat just to fuel those needs.
    -If your referring to the fact that you think im using it for cutting, im using it for a strength cycle (trying to keep gains and limit water retention) I'm also trying to keep my weight down, thats why im not using test for the strength cycle, or tren .

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    One last question is i read of one guy who lost alot of energy, i have to say i dont have alot of energy as it is (i take an ADD drug which is an appetite surpressant as well, so i tend not to eat as much as i should for my current energy requirements, that and a shitty sleep schedule.) and im also going to be going back to engineering in a week, a very consuming course load to be modest, do you think its unwise to use it while in school, that it will affect my school performance?

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    nolva is a SERM and should be the backbone of any good pct regimen. on cycle you would use an AI, however that would not be needed with a cycle that mild. Jiggaman gave you sound advice as well.

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    it shouldnt effect your school performance. As i said before, if you are ready to cycle your diet should have long been in check. go check out the diet forums for some sample diets or post yours and let others critique it

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    nolva is a SERM and should be the backbone of any good pct regimen. on cycle you would use an AI, however that would not be needed with a cycle that mild. Jiggaman gave you sound advice as well.
    so i dont need to get my test checked? Use nolva along with clomid, how many mgs would you say a day? Ive heard 25 for clomid. So the nolva would be to get my test back to normal aswell? What about HCG ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    it shouldnt effect your school performance. As i said before, if you are ready to cycle your diet should have long been in check. go check out the diet forums for some sample diets or post yours and let others critique it
    Ok thanks for the info. Apreciated.

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    with an anavar only cycle the nolvadex would suffice by itself at about 20 mg per day for 3-4 weeks starting the day after the cycle. Nolva and Clomid are both SERMs but most will concur that nolva is more effective at restoring your natty test levels. getting bloodwork may be a bit overkill with a cycle that weak.

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    sehr just make sure you READ up..... and then READ some more...once you do that you WILL get it

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