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[Crypt keeper]

Okay... Where to start out.

Im 27 year old male. Former College football player. I know how to lift and how to diet.

While in college I was 240 pounds and about 11% body fat. I played fullback. I'm 5'10 still, damn it! My soph. season I got hurt while playing. I lost a lot of muscle while rehabbing then hurt it again and that was it for me.

My main points are legs and back. They were huge. Still have decent size. I have been lifting now for a few months. Mostly upper body and strength training to get the old bum knee strong again. Gained decent size and strength back. I cant really do leg work or run though and its hindering me bad. I can jog for intervals but nothing to build stamina. Get your knee destroyed twice and let me know how you do. Im about 270 now and about 16% body fat and my diet is not allowing me to get lower without starving myself and I refuse too.

I have a few friends that mess this stuff. I dont know much. I actually have been trolling around the past year reading and trying to figure stuff out but its hard to get straight answers without asking direct questions.

My friends are currently taking about 700mg a week of Trenbolone Enanthate . They are cut decent with a great build.

Im trying to get bigger. When I was 240 and decently cut it was impressive but i want to be about 250 to 260 and maybe around 13% if I can attain it.

Would Trenbolone Enanthate allow this or do I need another route?

[Nitro29]

Test e for your first cycle IMO

[warchild]

another route. test enanthate but do some research first.

[Nitro29]

hell yeah we agree

[warchild]

hell yeah we agree

finally huh

[Crypt keeper]

Test E huh? How much and how often? what is needed when i come off it? does it have crazy side effects like man boobs?

[warchild]

rrad man, this question is asked too much here

[stpete]

rrad man, this question is asked too much here

No kiddin.

Thread starter: You're at the best site to learn. Use the search option and take everything in.

[JiGGaMaN]

Dont worry, the sides wont be anything close to 700mg tren per week.

[Rugger02]

Test E huh? How much and how often? what is needed when i come off it? does it have crazy side effects like man boobs?

2 x 250 mg = 500mg per week for 12 weeks. Here's one8nine's pct for some good info.
one8nine's opinion on pct (links to side effect control too)
Arimidex , nolva, and HCG
Keep some letro on hand in case of "Man Boobs" LOL

[Crypt keeper]

No kiddin.

Thread starter: You're at the best site to learn. Use the search option and take everything in.

Cry about it. I have been trolling around for over a year. You obviously didnt read what I wrote or just skimmed through. Next time stay out of the thread. No reason to come in just to be a dick.

Thank you Rugger

[one8nine]

post up your diet
youre too high bf% to cycle

[Thunderlips]

Crypt keeper. stPete is right. Going by the questions you are asking you have not researched enough. If you do a search on side effects, PCT, cycle advice etc, you will be amazed at how much information will present itself. Trenbolone is for experienced users. Test E is highly recommended as a first cycle on this site at 2 x 250mg per week. PCT is of utmost importance for everyone whatever the cycle. There are sticky's on this subject to read. Feel free to continue asking question as all the people here are really willing to help, however the questions you asked could easily be answered in full by reading the sticky's and doing some searching on this site. I have had 1 x knee reco and rotator cuff surgery, so I understand it makes it difficult. You can only do what you can do mate. Imo, you need to work out consistently for at least another year or so and try and drop bf% a little bit. I agree, don't starve yourself, but once again search the diet forums and you'll find heaps of info on diet and nutrition. Good luck mate.

[Ashop]

Test e for your first cycle IMO

good idea...do some reasearch on this.