cutting with var

[TallMan]

Cutting is going well, I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week but I want to get ripped and I'm afraid I'm gonna cut a lot of muscle if I go any further.
That's why I wanna get some anavar to stay anti-catabolic and I've heard it also works the stomach area melting away the fat (so I've heard).

Would this be a good cutter ?

5 weeks 30mg/day anavar

[one8nine]

post up your diet/workout first

[TallMan]

post up your diet/workout first

1:
80 gram cruesli
50 gram whey
1 glass of grapefruitjuice


2:
5 eggs


3:
500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
30 gram olive oil


4:
meat,veggies,potatoes


5:
500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
30 gram olive oil


Total
2533 kcals
260 gram protein
118 gram carbs
134 gram fat

I workout the split way total of 3 times a week and almost no cardio cause I don't really need to do that as I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week.

[TallMan]

bump

[one8nine]

workout?
diet looks okay but im not the diet guy lets get this bumped for phate

[TallMan]

workout?
diet looks okay but im not the diet guy lets get this bumped for phate

monday:
12 sets chest
6 sets triceps
4 sets shoulders

wednesday:
12 sets back
6 sets biceps

friday:
12 sets legs
6 sets calves

[mkrulic]

1:
80 gram cruesli
50 gram whey
1 glass of grapefruitjuice


2:
5 eggs


3:
500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
30 gram olive oil


4:
meat,veggies,potatoes


5:
500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
30 gram olive oil


Total
2533 kcals
260 gram protein
118 gram carbs
134 gram fat

I workout the split way total of 3 times a week and almost no cardio cause I don't really need to do that as I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week.

what is the cottage cheese like stuff? is it cottage cheese? Im thinking not. do you know your fat is almost half your caloric intake. seems way high. I would never exceede 30%. I would add more of 4 and less of 3. is the meat chicken or beef. why did you go w/ these %'tages? Im coming up w/ 41/18/48
that seems like more than 100%. let me do the math
260*4=1040
118*4=472
134*9=1206
1206+472+1040=2718
ok now lets do the breakdown
38%/17%/44%
pro/carb/fat
seems high for fat. are you carb cycling?

[mkrulic]

monday:
12 sets chest
6 sets triceps
4 sets shoulders

wednesday:
12 sets back
6 sets biceps

friday:
12 sets legs
6 sets calves

give shoulders its own day. its too taxed at the end of monday to really get anything and 4 sets is like warm up. 12 sets back seems a little light. I would split the leg into 2 sections and work on different days. hams and quads seperated by 4 days. and I like to put arms on its own day. you could turn this into a 6 day a week routine. this would give more attention to each individual muscle group.
as far as loosing weight goes, your body does not like to burn protien. If your loosing weight its probably a good thing.

[TallMan]

@mkrulic:
Carbs make me fat. I'm doing my own version of the anabolic diet. Just keeping my carbs low and eating some nice pizza in the weekend hehe. Seems to work.

Splitting it up might be a good idea, but I think I'd rather add 1 day instead of 3 days. How about I add an arm/shoulder day at the end of the week ?
And why is 12 sets for back to light ? After that I'll only lower in weight even more, isn't that just a waste of time ?

[one8nine]

no cardio?
carbs are essential

[TallMan]

no cardio?
carbs are essential

That's why I eat them. Only not more than I need to.

Yup, no cardio. The only nice thing about being an ectomorph.

[mkrulic]

@mkrulic:
Carbs make me fat. I'm doing my own version of the anabolic diet. Just keeping my carbs low and eating some nice pizza in the weekend hehe. Seems to work.

Splitting it up might be a good idea, but I think I'd rather add 1 day instead of 3 days. How about I add an arm/shoulder day at the end of the week ?
And why is 12 sets for back to light ? After that I'll only lower in weight even more, isn't that just a waste of time ?

like 189 said, carbs are essential. read the cutting stickey in the diet section. dont worry about loosing muscle mass. your body does not want to burn protien.
as for arm/shoulder day give it a try. and then try seperating and see which works best for you.
as for the back, what are the excersizes you are doing and how many sets for each?

[mkrulic]

this is the thread I was refering to:
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
and it was this inparticular:
"2. Carbs- You are **** right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they don’t count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams."

[one8nine]

That's why I eat them. Only not more than I need to.

Yup, no cardio. The only nice thing about being an ectomorph.

youre an ectomorph but you want to cut- somethings mixed up here
dont bother with a cutting cycle if you dont have cardio
1. diet
2. workout
3. cardio
4. steroids

[TallMan]

youre an ectomorph but you want to cut- somethings mixed up here
dont bother with a cutting cycle if you dont have for cardio
1. diet
2. workout
3. cardio
4. steroids

You think ectomorphs can't get fat ?
I don't even look like a typical ecto anymore bro but that doesn't mean that my somatype has changed.

It's not like a don't have the balls for cardio or anything. That's just a dumb thing to say. It's not that I don't wanna do it but I'm afraid I'm gonna lose to much weight to fast.
I make myself love cardio if it contributes to a good looking body. I dont give a **** bro

How much pounds a week would still be good to lose every week ?
I thought that 2 lbs was about the maximum...

[ghettoboyd]

2lbs a week is optimum in my opinion. if you dont like cardio then maybee switch up your workouts to full body ones. thay r not nessesaraly good for bulking but i find it is great for cutting. think about it. full body workouts stimulate the whole body,are intense if you keep rest between sets to 30-60 sec. intense workouts allegedly raise the bodys gh output(which helps in the facilitation of burning fat) and guess what,you can possibly get away with no cardio.if you were to try the full body workout then read up on circut training,super setting,giant sets,tecniques like that.also remember to keep the weights fairly heavy but at a weight that you can do for 12-15 reps.anyway thats my 2 cents. ive been doing it for the last 14 weeks and have lost 20lbs of fat.(ive been taking clen too)at week 17 i plan to shake it up and go back to traditional straight sets for 2 body parts a day split.i hope this helps man. experiment and find what works for you.p.s. if you try full body i thinck you will find them tougher than your current routien as long as you keep them intense.

[one8nine]

You think ectomorphs can't get fat ?
I don't even look like a typical ecto anymore bro but that doesn't mean that my somatype has changed.

It's not like a don't have the balls for cardio or anything. That's just a dumb thing to say. It's not that I don't wanna do it but I'm afraid I'm gonna lose to much weight to fast.
I make myself love cardio if it contributes to a good looking body. I dont give a **** bro

How much pounds a week would still be good to lose every week ?
I thought that 2 lbs was about the maximum...

no i dont but i do think fat people need to do cardio is my point

diet is very important for cutting, i just get a little offended when people want to turn to steroids before or instead of hard work

[TallMan]

no i dont but i do think fat people need to do cardio is my point

diet is very important for cutting, i just get a little offended when people want to turn to steroids before or instead of hard work

Ok I understand.
But I don;t wanna take steroids to help me lose weight. I just want to use them to keep muscle while cutting to a very low fat percentage.

[one8nine]

Ok I understand.
But I don;t wanna take steroids to help me lose weight. I just want to use them to keep muscle while cutting to a very low fat percentage.

thats the best reason to use them

but you cant expect to get to a low bf% on that diet and no cardio

you say cabs make you fat i just think you need a better diet- most your cals come from fat

and you need to put some cardio in too
imo, join boxing or something more might enjoy, wrestling, cycling something
treadmills suck

[TallMan]

you say cabs make you fat i just think you need a better diet- most your cals come from fat

You've never heard of the Anabolic Diet ?

[one8nine]

You've never heard of the Anabolic Diet ?

i have i just dont believe youre going to drop any significant bodyfat on that diet alone, without hard work

[TallMan]

i have i just dont believe youre going to drop any significant bodyfat on that diet alone, without hard work

Then try it and be amazed.
I did the real Anabolic Diet some time ago and lost a lot of fat while I was only eating fat and protein without any carbs during the week and carb up every weekend. But I didn't like to eat no carbs at all cause I don't want supper to be a solo thing.

I think you really have to experience it to be able to understand why I'm eating this way.

[one8nine]

Then try it and be amazed.
I did the real Anabolic Diet some time ago and lost a lot of fat while I was only eating fat and protein without any carbs during the week and carb up every weekend. But I didn't like to eat no carbs at all cause I don't want supper to be a solo thing.

I think you really have to experience it to be able to understand why I'm eating this way.

im not saying the diet is bad
im saying you need cardio, not drugs
youre expecting to just take steroids and lose weight
try hard work

or go ahead and expect drugs to cut your fat but be sure to post in the member results forum so no one else wastes their money

[MuscleScience]

im not saying the diet is bad
im saying you need cardio, not drugs
youre expecting to just take steroids and lose weight
try hard work

or go ahead and expect drugs to cut your fat but be sure to post in the member results forum so no one else wastes their money

I agree

[TallMan]

im not saying the diet is bad
im saying you need cardio, not drugs
youre expecting to just take steroids and lose weight
try hard work

or go ahead and expect drugs to cut your fat but be sure to post in the member results forum so no one else wastes their money

Can't you read you stupid **** ?????????

How many times do I have to tell you that, and let me capitalize it for you, I DON'T WANT TO USE STEROIDS TO LOSE WEIGHT I WANT TO TAKE STEROIDS TO PREVENT MUSCLE LOSS !!!

It's like talking to a ****ing wall when I'm talking to you

[stallion_1]

Can't you read you stupid **** ?????????

How many times do I have to tell you that, and let me capitalize it for you, I DON'T WANT TO USE STEROIDS TO LOSE WEIGHT I WANT TO TAKE STEROIDS TO PREVENT MUSCLE LOSS !!!

It's like talking to a ****ing wall when I'm talking to you

lol
sommige van deze mensen zijn zo stom, alleen maakt je gek als ze niet begrijpen wat je probeert te vertellen. Ik ben het met u broer, zodat hij weet dat hij moet luisteren.

[TallMan]

lol
sommige van deze mensen zijn zo stom, alleen maakt je gek als ze niet begrijpen wat je probeert te vertellen. Ik ben het met u broer, zodat hij weet dat hij moet luisteren.

LOL

Waarom reageer je eigenlijk niet op je pm ?

[mkrulic]

Cutting is going well, I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week but I want to get ripped and I'm afraid I'm gonna cut a lot of muscle if I go any further.
That's why I wanna get some anavar to stay anti-catabolic and I've heard it also works the stomach area melting away the fat (so I've heard).

Would this be a good cutter ?

5 weeks 30mg/day anavar

Its statments like this that make poeple wounder if you really understand the importance of understanding nutrition and fitness. have you read the link I posted? 189, like everyoine else, is tryin to help.

[stallion_1]

LOL

Waarom reageer je eigenlijk niet op je pm ?

weet je zeker dat je me een berichtje sturen?

[one8nine]

Can't you read you stupid **** ?????????

How many times do I have to tell you that, and let me capitalize it for you, I DON'T WANT TO USE STEROIDS TO LOSE WEIGHT I WANT TO TAKE STEROIDS TO PREVENT MUSCLE LOSS !!!

It's like talking to a ****ing wall when I'm talking to you

so you want to use drugs to "melt away fat" (in your original post)
and you expect to get cut without working hard

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[stallion_1]

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that was good

[one8nine]

Ik kan google ook gebruiken

[stallion_1]

Ik kan google ook gebruiken

lol

Ik maak geen gebruik van google hond

[one8nine]

Ik raad dan indien u de echte taal dan deze vrije vertaler spreekt verwart mijn woorden en maakt mij lijken op een idioot

[stallion_1]

lol
ur cool in my book bud

[Broozer]

The first and last time I took Var I gained between 5-10 pounds of water and started to get gyno, had to order some Letro... it sucked.

And whats up with the Deutsch, you guys got me all jacked up lol

[one8nine]

lol
ur cool in my book bud

hey we may argue a lot but if i saw you gettin beat up id only way 20 or 30 second before jumpin in to help ya