first cycle

[rockenfalcon]

i have been feeling a fool for believing my friend on a recommended cycle after a few people told me it sounded crazy ,so i went back and read and was hoping yall guys mite help and tell me what yall think of a equpiose and test susp or should i go with a other test , also trying to figure out cycle on pct ,nolvadex

[redz]

The only reason for using test suspension imo is to avoid testing positive. I suggest test e or test c injected twice a week (mon-thurs split) at 500mg/week so 250mg/injection for about 10-12 weeks then wwait 2 weeks after last injection to start pct. Pct should also have a serm and ai. Nolva is a serm but you should also get some aromasin ,proviron or arimidex .

[one8nine]

you wanna shoot test 4 times a day?

your friend is an idiot

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[rockenfalcon]

i am 34 ,6'1 and 295 at 17% body i know i have a long time to get to 10% but i want to try clen and t3 as well as test im juct not sure of cycle together i eat about 5 small meals aday , i have been lifting for mass the last 7 years ,but lately been changong it up with hard CORE workout for speed and cut but reason for thinking of test my level had gone down to a 413 point of test in blood work

[JiGGaMaN]

Thats pretty good, you are already at 275lbs at 10% bodyfat. You should be competing at a national level man. dont do eq if you are doing suspension, that just doesnt make sense.

[Mulciber]

first cycle?

[rockenfalcon]

i have never tryied clen nor t3 and i am really excited to get me hands on some hoping it would raise my test if i lose a few more pounds , but i do have test suspension ,but if you think i should just go with another test for 12 weeks

[rockenfalcon]

yes first cycle

[rockenfalcon]

the doctor thought it was pretty wierd that my test levels were low since i was so big already so he was thinking of putting me on test cypo at half a cc of 200 i thought that was pretty weak so i said i would wait and ask around

[Mulciber]

personally i like to see a test only cycle for a first cycle.. surely not suspension.. go with a long ester for sure..i prefer enanthate ..
you can drop the BF just by getting your diet in check.. clen is an aid but not a miracle drug for sure.

[one8nine]

you shouldnt use steroids until you get under 12%

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my (one8nine's) starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741

tag team partner (phate's) starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355504

kale's starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

[rockenfalcon]

12% ok sounds good , i thunk i will agree so hope i can get down to it

[Mulciber]

you can do it brutha.. some patience,determination and hard work and you will be there in no time. good luck

[one8nine]

post up your diet for critique