Winstrol Only Cycle

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 03:00 PM

Whats the general outline of doing a Winstrol only cycle? Should anything else be stacked?
This would be while cutting btw

And from what I've read, no PCT is required right?

(Doesnt aromatize etc)

**Mulciber** · 09-08-2008, 03:49 PM

should anything else be stacked? yes, test

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mulciber

should anything else be stacked? yes, test

Whats the harm in using Winstrol alone?
Or something like Winstrol + Anavar

**Mulciber** · 09-08-2008, 04:12 PM

well how long you plan on running this cycle?
winny is rough on the joints, and really shouldnt be ran for a long period of time being 17aa and all. even tho i believe the effects off 17aa compounds are a bit exaggerated.

also, pct will still be necessary even with winny only

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:14 PM

goals and stats

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 04:18 PM

Just trying to get a rough idea for now, was thinking maybe 6 weeks?
Not sure whether or not I'd run Winstrol injections or orals though yet, it'd depend what I can get ahold of

Would Test E really be beneficial during cutting?

Goals: Drop BF% as much as possible, would be great if I could increase strength
Stats: approx 5'9/210lb/18% bf

Currently running DNP , after that I'll probably just run Clen while I cut - mainly thought of running the Winny to increase my strength while I'm cutting and what not, that being said I'm hoping to bulk with D-Bol + Test E after my cut so would want to avoid any interference between the two.

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

Just trying to get a rough idea for now, was thinking maybe 6 weeks?
Not sure whether or not I'd run Winstrol injections or orals though yet, it'd depend what I can get ahold of

Would Test E really be beneficial during cutting?

Goals: Drop BF% as much as possible, would be great if I could increase strength
Stats: approx 5'9/210lb/18% bf

Currently running DNP, after that I'll probably just run Clen while I cut - mainly thought of running the Winny to increase my strength while I'm cutting and what not, that being said I'm hoping to bulk with D-Bol + Test E after my cut so would want to avoid any interference between the two.

winny will not help w/ this goal. if you want to gain strength there are better aas to choose from. what is your age?

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:23 PM

winny does not burn fat

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 04:24 PM

Nope but the cardio + diet will

What else would you recommend to drop bf%?
From what I'd read (Especially the steroid .com profiles) Winstrol is ideal for cutting?

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

Nope but the cardio + diet will

What else would you recommend to drop bf%?
From what I'd read (Especially the steroid.com profiles) Winstrol is ideal for cutting?

nothing. that is what burns fat. winny does not. it does not burn fat. no need to use aas to achieve your goals. diet and exercise is all you need

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 04:28 PM

I'm not using steroids to BURN fat man, I've already said I want that to increase strength while I'm cutting.

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

I'm not using steroids to BURN fat man, I've already said I want that to increase strength while I'm cutting.

you made it seem lik that was a secondary goal. I mean you only mentioned it once in passing. so what is your goal. increase in strength means increase in size

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

you made it seem lik that was a secondary goal. I mean you only mentioned it once in passing. so what is your goal. increase in strength means increase in size

I've already explained I want to increase strength while I'm cutting.

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

I've already explained I want to increase strength while I'm cutting.

so you want to drive east while you are driving west. I dont know how to help you with that. need a better understanding of how strength training works. good luck

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 04:41 PM

So say someone runs Test E at 500mg/week along with Stanozolol and/or Anavar orals
Has a calorie intake of 2000-2500 (40/40/20 Pro/Carb/Fat)
Trains to cut (So lifts but also increases cardio and brings it into a daily regime)

Whats the outcome going to be?

(Thanks 189)

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

So say someone runs Test E at 500mg/week along with Stanozolol and/or Anavar orals
Has a calorie intake of 2000-2500 (40/40/20 Pro/Carb/Fat)
Trains to cut (So lifts but also increases cardio and brings it into a daily regime)

Whats the outcome going to be?

(Thanks 189)

it would be the same if you ran Test E at 500mg/week. if strenght is really that important.

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 04:46 PM

Strength up, BF% down?
Taking into account the amount of cardio and the calorie deficit as opposed to bulking.

If D-Bol was stacked would that just boost strength/muscle gains? (I know it still causes bloat etc but that'll disappear eventually)

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

Strength up, BF% down?
Taking into account the amount of cardio and the calorie deficit as opposed to bulking.

If D-Bol was stacked would that just boost strength/muscle gains? (I know it still causes bloat etc but that'll disappear eventually)

you can decrease bf% while increasing strength. thats a slightly different picture than lowering fat while increasing strength. if your diet is tight you will not bloat. you would gain more strength from wat you have proposed.
WHAT IS YOUR AGE?

**vBRAH** · 09-08-2008, 04:51 PM

Yeah I was going to ask that too actually (the risks of starting at a higher BF%) as I'd heard it'd increase my chances of responding harder to estrogen and what not. Ideally when would you say I jump on Test? I dont mind cutting lower than 15% if its going to be better for me in the long run, the lower the risk of gyno and what not the better I'd say.

Will have to try get ahold of T3, thanks for that.

I'm 22, why?

**mkrulic** · 09-08-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

Yeah I was going to ask that too actually (the risks of starting at a higher BF%) as I'd heard it'd increase my chances of responding harder to estrogen and what not. Ideally when would you say I jump on Test? I dont mind cutting lower than 15% if its going to be better for me in the long run, the lower the risk of gyno and what not the better I'd say.

Will have to try get ahold of T3, thanks for that.

I'm 22, why?

because I dont recommend cycles to teenagers

**VWbug66** · 09-08-2008, 11:42 PM

you wont notice a thing physically from the winny unless your under13% body fat...so thats' a waste. and winny only, I tried it. everything was fine till week3. I couldnt get it up, i was totally shut down. your best bet is to drop the winny..add test prop inplace

I would exercise ur ass off before touching aas...then get into a prop clen cycle to help u drop ur bf...yes winny is used to cut, but it wont do shit if ur above 13% or so..