Why is tren enanthate too harsh for a 1st cycle?

[halobolic]

Ppl always use this word but why is it too HARSH?

Harsh as in youll get extreme sides that will ruin thoughts about gear or you need to take a test only cycle first to build tolerance?PLease explain!

[halobolic]

It sound like tren is my dream drug bcause its got crazy strength and the sides are awesome to get you pissed and using that tren to lift BIG!

[Stoneco|d]

Probably because it's a long ester and if you get sides, it will take longer to get away from your system. If you use tren a, the half life is way shorter and if you see sides, you could stop it all together and it will leave your system in few days.

[oneshot]

Probably because it's a long ester and if you get sides, it will take longer to get away from your system. If you use tren a, the half life is way shorter and if you see sides, you could stop it all together and it will leave your system in few days.

true true. i personally used tren ace in my first cycle and got excellent gains with very minimal sides. if you know what to expect it wont be as bad but everyone responds differently to different compounds so it's hard to say

[bbuilder]

Probably because it's a long ester and if you get sides, it will take longer to get away from your syste

Not true. TEST E is the best first cycle and it doesn't start kicking in until after week 5.

Tren is very powerful. That is why it's a waste for a first time cycle. You can get just as much out of TEST as you can sometime very powerful because it's your first time.

[inky-e]

Ppl always use this word but why is it too HARSH?

Harsh as in youll get extreme sides that will ruin thoughts about gear or you need to take a test only cycle first to build tolerance?PLease explain!

Too harsh is an overstatement...you want to see how your body reacts to these compounds...so in a test only cycle if something goes wrong you know its the test. Second cycles are usually, but not always, stacked...by this time you know how you react to test then if shit happens its the second compound. USUALLY>

[LATS60]

Not true. TEST E is the best first cycle and it doesn't start kicking in until after week 5.

Tren is very powerful. That is why it's a waste for a first time cycle. You can get just as much out of TEST as you can sometime very powerful because it's your first time.

Stone never said it wasn't the best 1st cycle, he just answered the OP's Q truthfully.
Tren is not very powerful either it's a relatively mild 19nor.

[widowmaker2]

Stone never said it wasn't the best 1st cycle, he just answered the OP's Q truthfully.
Tren is not very powerful either it's a relatively mild 19nor.

WRONG!!! tren is the most powerful injectable by far my freind..dont chime in if you dont know what your talking about

[widowmaker2]

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[LATS60]

WRONG!!! tren is the most powerful 19-nor injectable by far my freind..dont chime in if you dont know what your talking about

When i said it's relatively mild, i meant sides wise, as there are no aromatization issues. But yes androgenically it's around 3-4 times stronger than test.
I'm entitled to my opinion, take it or leave it.

But quit telling me what, or what not to do.

[DEVLDOG]

When i said it's relatively mild, i meant sides wise, as there are no aromatization issues. But yes androgenically it's around 3-4 times stronger than test.
I'm entitled to my opinion, take it or leave it.

But quit telling me what, or what not to do.

mild sides? I dont know about that,it isnt working unless you can feel the sides

Ive run tren up to 150mg/ed for 6 months straight.you increase dose weekly until sides are unbearable then back off just a bit,still have sides but tolerable.I remember sleeping only 30min a nite but feeling refreshed and sweating one minute and shivering the next,my body couldnt regulate temp.but i was as hard as nails and strong as a bull..I sure as hell dont miss the tren cough...haha

tren is a great drug,use it but dont abuse it bro.

[widowmaker2]

When i said it's relatively mild, i meant sides wise, as there are no aromatization issues. But yes androgenically it's around 3-4 times stronger than test.
I'm entitled to my opinion, take it or leave it.

But quit telling me what, or what not to do.

you havent got a clue...mild sides??!! try again buddy... with over 600 posts you should know better...sheesh

[WARMachine]

I agree with Fusion... Way too harsh to even think of for a first cycle...

I would do at leats two before thinking of it...