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    Stopped Cycle

    Group,

    I decided to cut my cycle short. I am still dealing with my Graves Disease of the Thyroid. It has attacked my eyes and I am having yet another eye surgery next week.

    My TSH goes up and down. My endocrinologist has regulated the dose of Synthroid or T-4 to a level we think will work. It has taken all year for this to happen. At diagnosis my TSH was 0.0 (yes zero). At it's peak, it reached 95 (yes ninety-five). At 95 I started having pancreatic and liver labs out of range.

    I was on 175mcG of Synthroid or T-4 and 15mcG of Cytomel or T-3 daily. My TSH got as low as 0.04 (yes, zero point zero four) The normal is 0.5 to 5.0. My Synthroid was changed to 150mcG a day. The last TSH was 7.5, so we are alternating 150 & 175mcG. I had the choice of lowering the Cytomel or rotating the Synthroid doses. I wanted to keep the Cytomel as I lost all the unwanted weight I had gained due to the flux of the TSH's.

    So, I've gone from a muscular 180 to a fat 195, back to a somewhat fit 180.

    In addition, the Thyroid disease has really put my natural test into the toilet. My free test was 188. I was on a HRT program of 200mg of Cyp q 3 weeks. Not enough for muscle gains, but $10 for a 10ml of pharm grade Cyp wasn't bad!! My free test never recovered. I am in the 180's, so he switched me to Androgel. I am doing 5grams per day on each shoulder and upper pec. For some reason, it appears I am loosing some bodyfat in those areas. (placebo affect probably)

    My Plan...

    I am going to run Nolva@50mg/day and Clomid at 25mg/day for the next 6 weeks. I am also taking 0.5mg of caber twice per week.

    I have clen on hand and plan to lean out as much as possible before I restart a cycle. My estimated bf% is around 12% currently. My waist is a loose 33 and a tight 32. 31-32 was my norm. 34's became tight when I gained all the weight.

    My plan continued...

    So I am going to get all of my bloodwork in check before I get ready to cycle. I am looking at re-start in January. I plan to run Prop only cycles as at this point as my body seems to react to prop the best.

    My source sent me EQ on my last order instead of prop so I may consider a cycle of Test E and EQ mid-year in '09. (unless someone has a better idea).

    Suggestions and comments are welcome.

    (BIGMAX...you are the BEST!!!!!)

    Indymuscleguy


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    Go ahead and do you a good PCT bro...Go ahead and get your blood work and where you're at....Not sure about the Eq bro(amount of time you need to be on it to get optimal results)...not worried about the test E with prop kick at the begining...But then again you may want to start thinking about fast acting compound..so that they are in and out...Prop,NPP ect....have to watch the cytomel as it tends to eat up muscle after a significant time on it...Iuse t4 cause its a bit milder for me and muscle sparring..

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    Max,

    Again, you are the master!! Since I no longer produce these hormones due to the total shut down of my thyroid as a result of the treatment of Graves disease, my doses of T-3 and T-4 are high, the T-4 moreso than the T-3.

    Tell me if I understand this correctly. 30% of T-4 converts to T-3 within the body. So if I am taking, on average, 162.5 of T-4 daily, then I convert to 48.75mcG of T-3. Add in my 15 mcG of T-3, I consume ~65mcG of T-3 daily, correct?

    The addition of T-3 really, REALLY helped me drop the added bodyfat when my TSH got out of control once the thyroid died.

    So I ask again, since I no longer have the ability to Natually produce any thyroid hormones, the Brand-named Synthroid and Cytomel doseags are on the upper end of high or what?

    Thanks in advance bro...

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    Oh and regarding cycles,

    Prop only has worked very well in the past. Ethanate and Prop was my best cycle I ever ran.

    Don't really know what to do with the EQ. One buddy at the gym said...keep it and run it, you'll love it. I just don't know what to run it with, actually.

    Prop and Masteron together is another cycle I liked. Love the hardness the Masteron gave me.

    Oh and one thing I forgot. I have been running GH at 2iu's per day for the past 9 weeks. I am considering stopping as I have a total of 30 weeks worth and waiting to resume when I am ready to cycle again and when I can get more. Now that the olympics are over, I understand supplies are coming back

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    good idea stopping the cycle

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    huh ???

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    what?

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    If you have that many medical problems i would steer clear of doing AAS. You are only going to compound the fluctuation in your hormone levels and make it harder for your doctor to treat you properly. my .02

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