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09-13-2008, 07:21 AM #1Junior Member
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first cycle with EQ
i want start an EQ only cycle...i dont use test E. for many reason (i m prone to acne) and i want gain a good quality muscle...
i want do that:
Weeks 1-12 :400 EQ
Week 16 : Nolva @40
Week 17 : Nolva @40
Week 18 : Nolva @20
Week 19 : Nolva @20
it's ok?
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09-13-2008, 07:25 AM #2
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09-13-2008, 07:40 AM #3Junior Member
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09-13-2008, 07:45 AM #4
I wouldn't recommend an EQ only cycle, it's less suppresive than deca but it will have an effect on HPTA function.
Go for it if you like mate, you won't know till you try i guess, the plan looks fine.
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09-13-2008, 07:55 AM #5Member
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I'd run EQ longer than 12 weeks.
Higher than 400mgs
and put 125mg - 250mgs of test in there, acne shouldn't be a prob with that low a dose and it's keep your sex drive up.
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09-13-2008, 08:04 AM #6Junior Member
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09-13-2008, 08:54 AM #7
What are your stats? Age, training experience, etc.
An EQ only cycle will hurt you more then it will help you. I'll explain this after I see your stats.
There are many postings on this forum about running an EQ only cycle so I'm wondering why your wanting to run it?
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09-13-2008, 10:50 AM #8Junior Member
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i can do a test E. cycle but i have fear for acne...with 250mg of test E. can i have i lot of acne?
im 22years old, i'm 90kg
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09-13-2008, 11:04 AM #9New Member
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09-13-2008, 12:37 PM #18New Member
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09-13-2008, 12:40 PM #19
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09-13-2008, 12:54 PM #20
I cant believe the crap some people post.
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09-13-2008, 03:20 PM #21
I agree realmafia.
#1. You are too young to think about gear.
When you SHOULDN'T use AAS imho....
An EQ only cycle for a 21 year old.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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09-13-2008, 03:59 PM #22New Member
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09-13-2008, 06:17 PM #23
this is rediculous...21 is to young to juice anyway. wait till your 24-25 by then all your adolecsant acne will probly be cleared up for the most part and you can run a test only cycle. as for an eq only cycle its a bad idea.. but ppl are entilted to their opinions.
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09-13-2008, 06:44 PM #26New Member
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I am waiting for one of you "experts" to explain why an eq cycle is a bad first cycle but no one will step up to the plate. You seem like a bunch of parrots that are repeating what you heard somewhere.
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09-13-2008, 07:17 PM #27
Ok, it's pretty simple really, it's a bad any cycle if ran on its own, not as suppresive as deca but suppresive nonetheless.
So EQ will suppress your HPTA.
It has to be run for long periods and at reasonably high doses to get any worthwhile gains.
This can cause libido issues.
This can lead to other problems, physiological and physcological,( especially in a relationship)however if exogenous test is introduced no more physcological/physiological issues.
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09-13-2008, 07:33 PM #28
Really? I'm not doubting you, but I would like to see those threads... I haven't been on lately; only been active for the past 2 days.
Ok, you're too young bro. Wait till you get older and in the mean time, just bust your arse at the gym and eat clean as much as you can.
Right! I agree w/you. EQ only cycle is 100% fine for those who are afraid of using IM exogenous chemicals. However, I disagree w/ you on just that at least a minimum dose of Test is needed on every cycle to avoid erectile dysfunction, as EQ has the potential to shut down the body's Test production.
With all respect bro, I'm not laughing on this one. It seems like you do need to do more research on your own. Now, that your personal opinion on this matter is NOT TO DO an EQ only cycle then your opinion MUST BE respected. But you're off on this one mate... sorry! I don't deny that HPTA funtions are impacted, for this is true FOR ANY AAS CYCLE!
To an extent, you're probably right about that!
True!
Bro, if you don't have any substantial/constructive comments to make... you know what follows next! I'm not being harsh, but this is a serious topic.
100% agree mate!
Right.. hopefully he listens to your and everybody else's advise on this.
You're right about everything you've said, except that you fail to mention EQ ran @400mg is worthless, in my opinion. It should be ran @600mgs to experience somewhat good results on it. Also, you failed to mention that through cycle or on PCT one needs to run an LH agent to stimulate the body's natural Test production. There's more to this, but you failed to mention this which tells me you're half way there.
MY OPINION about this is the EQ only cycle is not bad, if you know what you're doing. However, any first cycle should be Test only based. In addition, any cycle run w/out synthetic Test is in someway, a mediocre idea.
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09-13-2008, 07:39 PM #29
Well i respect your response to my earlier post, but what about the one above you.
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09-13-2008, 08:01 PM #30
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09-13-2008, 09:18 PM #31
I seriously doubt he can comprehend let alone take anyones advice here.
If that were the case, he would have search though the millions of postings that say anyone under 25 is too young to do gear.
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09-13-2008, 11:44 PM #32
Test suppresses you worse.
Test E has to be run a long time to see gains. Test potentially has more sides.
Eq only may not cause libido issues.
Your last statement is silly
Anyway, that was my first cycle and I loved it. I'm using test now and I don't care for it. Next cycle I'll definitely drop out the test or drop it way back. Up the eq to 600/wk.
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09-14-2008, 05:14 AM #33
Of course test suppresses your HPTA function.
You are totally missing the point.
Use test with EQ to avoid the issues i outlined.
So you would recommend a EQ only cycle.
Oh and you say test e has to be run a long time, what about EQ and it's 11 carbon ester,,,,,,,,,,, get your facts right mate, before havin a dig.
PS, your whole post is silly.
PPS, Eq may not cause libido issues, yea right, what you gonna run it 200mg wk lol
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09-14-2008, 07:28 AM #34Junior Member
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09-14-2008, 07:37 AM #35Junior Member
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this is my actually condition
Last edited by tasKer; 09-14-2008 at 07:41 AM.
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09-14-2008, 03:40 PM #36Junior Member
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with 250mg of test. cypionate the risk of acne is high?
i can do that:
1-12 week 250mg test. cyp.
15 week 40 nolva
16 week 40 nolva
17 week 20 nolva
18 week 20 nolva
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09-14-2008, 03:48 PM #37
Why are so so concerned with acne? It wont be that bad(more than likely) and it will go away after PCT!
Nolva only PCT = user has done little to no research...
You need at least clomid, if not an AI my friend
BTW, those pics, there is no way your only 200lbs! (unless your 5'8)
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09-14-2008, 04:25 PM #40Junior Member
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thx , what is AI?
can i use test cypionate ?
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