Just alittle bit of help..Please.....

**NewSB** · 09-13-2008, 01:38 PM

26yr male
170lbs
9yr training/execellent diet
11% BF

Hey everyone.....going to be using sus 250 500mg/week eod.
Please check my Pct....

On cycle...L-Dex .5 e3d (or when needed)

Pct

Nolv
week 1-2 40 mg ed
week 3-4 20 mg ed

Arom
week 1-2 40 mg ed
week 3-4 20 mg ed

look good...what do u think??

**Freakish** · 09-13-2008, 02:00 PM

looks pretty good bro

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 02:06 PM

Looks ok ( no i'm not starting another sust debate) how long is this cycle?

**Amorphic** · 09-13-2008, 03:04 PM

looks good to go

**inky-e** · 09-13-2008, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by NewSB

26yr male
170lbs
9yr training/execellent diet
11% BF

Hey everyone.....going to be using sus 250 500mg/week eod.
Please check my Pct....

On cycle...L-Dex .5 e3d (or when needed)

Pct

Nolv
week 1-2 40 mg ed
week 3-4 20 mg ed

Arom
week 1-2 40 mg ed
week 3-4 20 mg ed

look good...what do u think??

Bro...500 mg's eod???

**Amorphic** · 09-13-2008, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by inky-e

Bro...500 mg's eod???

500mgs/w shot eod im assuming

**inky-e** · 09-13-2008, 03:49 PM

If its 500 mg's a week split up in eod shots then whew! Its good!

**NewSB** · 09-13-2008, 06:36 PM

yea boys.....125mg eod for a grand total of...500mg/week...One more question....U guys believe in starting the L-dex two weeks prior to the sustanon to get blood levels stable? Or just began L-dex when i start sus???

**widowmaker2** · 09-13-2008, 06:37 PM

i say only run l-dex if needed

**NewSB** · 09-13-2008, 06:41 PM

But i dont want to get to the point that i say..."oh sh*t, i should have taken it...now i have sore nips and etc.( i dont want to have to start using nolvadex mid cycle)
This will be my first cycle with test. 2 10ml bottles, 10 weeks. What type of gains should i expect since this is my first experience with test??

**widowmaker2** · 09-13-2008, 06:43 PM

invest in some letro then...letro gets rid of oncoming gyno in no time flat w/o hindering any of your gains

**widowmaker2** · 09-13-2008, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by NewSB

But i dont want to get to the point that i say..."oh sh*t, i should have taken it...now i have sore nips and etc.( i dont want to have to start using nolvadex mid cycle)
This will be my first cycle with test. 2 10ml bottles, 10 weeks. What type of gains should i expect since this is my first experience with test??

as for your gains it all depends on work out regimen and diet. you hold the key to your gains. everyones different

**NewSB** · 09-13-2008, 06:47 PM

Letro i have heard is pretty harsh...i would have to change up my pct then right?

**Headliner** · 09-13-2008, 07:07 PM

Drug: Testosterone Propionate
(Initial) Dose: 15mg
Half-life: 2 days
Dose Frequency: Every 2 days
Cycle Length: 80 days
Start Day: 1
Tapered: No

Drug: Testosterone Isocaproate
(Initial) Dose: 30mg
Half-life: 5 days
Dose Frequency: Every 2 days
Cycle Length: 80 days
Start Day: 1
Tapered: No

Drug: Testosterone Isocaproate
(Initial) Dose: 30mg
Half-life: 5 days
Dose Frequency: Every 2 days
Cycle Length: 80 days
Start Day: 1
Tapered: No

Drug: Testosterone Decanoate
(Initial) Dose: 50mg
Half-life: 9.5 days
Dose Frequency: Every 2 days
Cycle Length: 80 days
Start Day: 1
Tapered: No

The first number is the amount of esterified testosterone, and the second number is the esterified EQ/Deca/Tren which is still left from your injections.

Day 1: 125mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 2: 109.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 3: 221.1mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 4: 194.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 5: 296.6mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 6: 261.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 7: 357mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 8: 315.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 9: 405.6mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 10: 359.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 11: 445.2mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 12: 395.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 13: 477.6mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 14: 424.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 15: 504.3mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 16: 449.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 17: 526.6mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 18: 469.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 19: 545mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 20: 486.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 21: 560.4mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 22: 500.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 23: 573.2mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 24: 511.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 25: 584.1mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 26: 521.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 27: 593.2mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 28: 530.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 29: 600.9mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 30: 537.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 31: 607.5mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 32: 543.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 33: 613.1mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 34: 548.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 35: 617.9mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 36: 552.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 37: 621.9mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 38: 556.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 39: 625.4mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 40: 559.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 41: 628.3mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 42: 562.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 43: 630.8mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 44: 564.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 45: 633mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 46: 566.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 47: 634.9mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 48: 568.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 49: 636.4mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 50: 569.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 51: 637.7mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 52: 570.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 53: 638.8mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 54: 571.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 55: 639.8mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 56: 572.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 57: 640.6mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 58: 573.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 59: 641.3mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 60: 574.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 61: 641.9mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 62: 574.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 63: 642.4mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 64: 575.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 65: 642.9mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 66: 575.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 67: 643.3mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 68: 576.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 69: 643.7mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 70: 576.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 71: 644mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 72: 576.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 73: 644.3mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 74: 577mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 75: 644.5mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 76: 577.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 77: 644.7mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 78: 577.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 79: 644.9mg T, 0mg E/D/TInjection DayInjection DayInjection DayInjection Day
Day 80: 577.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 81: 520mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 82: 468.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 83: 424mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 84: 383.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 85: 348.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 86: 316.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 87: 288.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 88: 262.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 89: 239.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 90: 218.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 91: 200.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 92: 182.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 93: 168mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 94: 153.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 95: 141.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 96: 129.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 97: 119.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T - Start PCT
Day 98: 109mg T, 0mg E/D/T - Start PCT
Day 99: 100.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T - Start PCT
Day 100: 92.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T - Start PCT
Day 101: 85.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T - Start PCT
Day 102: 78.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 103: 72.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 104: 66.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 105: 61.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 106: 56.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 107: 52.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 108: 48.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 109: 44.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 110: 41.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 111: 38.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 112: 35.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 113: 32.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 114: 30mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 115: 27.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 116: 25.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 117: 23.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 118: 21.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 119: 20.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 120: 18.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 121: 17.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 122: 16.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 123: 14.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 124: 13.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 125: 12.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 126: 11.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 127: 10.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 128: 10mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 129: 9.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 130: 8.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 131: 8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 132: 7.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 133: 6.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 134: 6.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 135: 5.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 136: 5.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 137: 5.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 138: 4.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 139: 4.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 140: 4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 141: 3.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 142: 3.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 143: 3.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 144: 2.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 145: 2.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 146: 2.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 147: 2.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 148: 2.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 149: 2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 150: 1.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 151: 1.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 152: 1.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 153: 1.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 154: 1.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 155: 1.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 156: 1.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 157: 1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 158: 0.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 159: 0.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 160: 0.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 161: 0.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 162: 0.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 163: 0.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 164: 0.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 165: 0.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 166: 0.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 167: 0.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 168: 0.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 169: 0.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 170: 0.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T

**widowmaker2** · 09-13-2008, 07:14 PM

dude are you serious right now?? im not gona attach my quote to this cuz it takes up the whole page already.. break it down in weeks! for christ sake

**Headliner** · 09-13-2008, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by fusion600

dude are you serious right now?? im not gona attach my quote to this cuz it takes up the whole page already.. break it down in weeks! for christ sake

All you do it hate on me, uncool beans

**Headliner** · 09-13-2008, 07:22 PM

I did it for 80 days, because your doing 500mg every EIGHT days, not 7(125 EoD = 500mg/8 days), though you aren't going to get 10ml from a bottle(unless your a pro drawer), so It will probably be closer to 70 days(10 weeks) anyways.

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 07:24 PM

Iv'e seen this stuff soooooo many times, it's crap, what you do roid calculate it.

**Headliner** · 09-13-2008, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by LATS60

Iv'e seen this stuff soooooo many times, it's crap, what you do roid calculate it.

Why is it crap, I was showing him approx what to expect for his test levels, as well showing him he is actually averaging 437.5mg/week

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Headliner

Why is it crap, I was showing him approx what to expect for his test levels, as well showing him he is actually averaging 437.5mg/week

Ok, i apologize mate, it is only an approximation, just as an after thought thats a pretty neat conclusion for an approximation, 437.5.

**"Maximus"** · 09-13-2008, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Headliner

Why is it crap, I was showing him approx what to expect for his test levels, as well showing him he is actually averaging 437.5mg/week

The Roid calculator, it does something similar to what you posted... I don't have the damn link w/me as I need to organize my links. Just don't take other's comments/opinions to heart bro, jmo. They are trying to help and voice their opionions, just don't take every word/comment too personal.

**widowmaker2** · 09-13-2008, 07:55 PM

Headliner,

i think youve got me mixed up with stallion..haha...dont mind me bro im just in a flamin mood tonite...

**NewSB** · 09-14-2008, 09:09 AM

Headliner is confusing me....what does he mean by every 8 day. 4 shots a week, eod is 500mgs. Im confused ....someone help me out

**Headliner** · 09-14-2008, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by NewSB

yea boys.....125mg eod for a grand total of...500mg/week...One more question....U guys believe in starting the L-dex two weeks prior to the sustanon to get blood levels stable? Or just began L-dex when i start sus???

You said right there your shooting 125mg EoD.

EoD = Every other day (every second day)

125mgs, shot every Second day, would look like this:

(week 1)
Day1: 125mgs
day2: 0mgs
day3: 125mgs
day4: 0mgs
day5: 125mgs
day6: 0mgs
day7: 125mgs

(week 2)
day8: 0mgs
day9: 125mgs
day10: 0mgs
day11: 125mgs
day12: 0mgs
day13: 125mgs
day14: 0mgs

and repeats itself following week 1 and 2

Totaling 875mgs (dose for 2 weeks)

875mgs/2 = 437.5mgs/week

**NewSB** · 09-14-2008, 09:35 AM

gotcha headliner....4 shots one week, 3 the next and it keeps alternating. Hey i was gonna start the L-dex when i start the sus because i want to keep down the bloat. What do u think? i dont want to wait till i start feeling sides to begin use. I was think 1/2mg e3d to begin, or do u think differently. Becasue i want to keep some estrogen floating around so i make some gains and dont crash.

**10nispro** · 09-14-2008, 09:45 AM

If you are worried about bloat you can run adex at .25mg ed from the beginning.

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