Dbol,Deca,test....plz help

**pushinplates4eva** · 09-13-2008, 05:02 PM

whats up guys.... I am 5ft 11. 190lb at about 12 percent bodyfat.
Been training hard for about 7 years. Diet in check for the past 5 years.

Here is my cycle...

wk 1-4 dbol 25mg/ed... split through 5svg's.
wk 1-10- Deca 300mg/wk... split through 150mg 2x/wk
wk 1-12- Test E 500mg/wk... split though 250mg 2./wk
wk 13-14 500i.u HCG (250i.u 2x/wk)
wk 15 500i.u HCG (250i.u 2x/wk) Nolva 40mg/ed, Clomid 25mg/ed
wk 16 500i.u HCG (250i.u 2x/wk) Nolva 20mg/ed, Clomid 25mg/ed
wk 17 Clomid 25mg/ed, Nolva 20mg/ed
wk 18 Nolva 20mg/ed

CANT GET LETRO... cant get my hands on it for some reason.

I know the deca is a low dose but its all i can get and its more for my crappy joints than anything.

How does the cycle look?? been doing a lot of research, let me know if i'm missing anything?? Thanks in advance

**stallion_1** · 09-13-2008, 05:07 PM

overall that cycle looks good, it shows some researche

did u put it together??

ur pct is alittle overkill

too much hcg

300 mg of deca is good for a beginner

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 05:11 PM

As stallion said, not a bad little cycle, dbol at the dose can be taken all at once.

**pushinplates4eva** · 09-13-2008, 05:13 PM

had some help from the guys on this board...but then the subject seemed to get twisted mid through the forum.. hah, but really 2000i.u is too much divided into 4 weeks? I thought that was the min. to take

**stallion_1** · 09-13-2008, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by LATS60

As stallion said, not a bad little cycle, dbol at the dose can be taken all at once.

hey lad i like ur avy, at first glance i thought 'twas some kind of building, but now i realized they're amps. very clever

cheers

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by pushinplates4eva

had some help from the guys on this board...but then the subject seemed to get twisted mid through the forum.. hah, but really 2000i.u is too much divided into 4 weeks? I thought that was the min. to take

I just had a look at your hcg protocol, i miss read, if anything i'd say it was a bit on the light side, also when running deca it's a good idea to start hcg before you start PCT to give your nuts a kickstart.
So wks 10-14, JMO.

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

hey lad i like ur avy, at first glance i thought 'twas some kind of building, but now i realized they're amps. very clever

cheers

Haha, it took me hours

**stallion_1** · 09-13-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by pushinplates4eva

had some help from the guys on this board...but then the subject seemed to get twisted mid through the forum.. hah, but really 2000i.u is too much divided into 4 weeks? I thought that was the min. to take

id only do 3 weeks at 500 iu of hcg , but overall i dont see any major problem with that, so as the way u have it would be ok. and as LAts said u can just take the dbol all toghether or just split it into two portions.

**Ernst** · 09-13-2008, 05:28 PM

Looks pretty good.

Is this your first cycle?
So no AI or the like on cycle? Or for pct?
Have you considered ar-r for letro?

**"Maximus"** · 09-13-2008, 08:18 PM

If this is your first cycle, that's a way overkill bro... if not, that's a great intermediate cycle. Keep us posted.

**pushinplates4eva** · 09-14-2008, 02:03 PM

thanks for all the replies guys.... As for if this is my 1st cycle, not really, i did 8 weeks of 400mg/wk of test e.. but it was really crappy underdosed eurovet juice.. i ate like a beast, trained like a beast, there was no experation date on the bottle and it looked so fake it was crazy.I did a search and supposedly thats how eurovet produces their gear. So all i stopped shooting after 8 weeks cuz i felt nothing at all.

So in retrospect to that.... U guys still think this is overkill for me... should i drop the d-bols? I need to do the deca because of bad joint problems, and i know if i run the decca i gota run the test... And i wanted to kick start it with a low does of d-bols.

What u guys thing... and as for the ar-r for letro?? dont really know what that means, please explain.

thanks again

**WARMachine** · 09-14-2008, 02:22 PM

It means go here: http://www.ar-r.com/

you can get Letro there, youre probably gonna need it.

I would never advise Deca /Tren for a first timer...

But this is an awesome cycle, and the PCT looks great...

Youre gonna do what youre gonna right?

I would just do Test E 500mg PW if i were you.

**pushinplates4eva** · 09-14-2008, 02:45 PM

how should i take the letro if i get the 30ml. when its 2.5mg/ml.... i was only advised of the pill form... sry if thats a retarted question....

and this question is in referance to my cycle that is listed above (18 wk cycle)

**WARMachine** · 09-14-2008, 02:49 PM

You actually have a 12 week cycle bro... The other 6 weeks are your PCT.

You generally take Letro @ .25mg ED

Now, if you think youre not prone to gyno, i would start at E3D or EOD. (thats just me)

**inky-e** · 09-14-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by pushinplates4eva

whats up guys.... I am 5ft 11. 190lb at about 12 percent bodyfat.
Been training hard for about 7 years. Diet in check for the past 5 years.

Here is my cycle...

wk 1-4 dbol 25mg/ed... split through 5svg's.
wk 1-10- Deca 300mg/wk... split through 150mg 2x/wk
wk 1-12- Test E 500mg/wk... split though 250mg 2./wk
wk 13-14 500i.u HCG (250i.u 2x/wk)
wk 15 500i.u HCG (250i.u 2x/wk) Nolva 40mg/ed, Clomid 25mg/ed
wk 16 500i.u HCG (250i.u 2x/wk) Nolva 20mg/ed, Clomid 25mg/ed
wk 17 Clomid 25mg/ed, Nolva 20mg/ed
wk 18 Nolva 20mg/ed

CANT GET LETRO... cant get my hands on it for some reason.

I know the deca is a low dose but its all i can get and its more for my crappy joints than anything.

How does the cycle look?? been doing a lot of research, let me know if i'm missing anything?? Thanks in advance