ive bought my pack but only knew about pct on this forum. i told alot of mates about them. they have no clue. most of my dealers have no clue wat it was aswell. i got mine and im thinking if these types of things are the only way in retaining most muscle after a cycle then how come alot of people stay big and strong without it? i think there still inexperienced. my brother has been training for a long while and he's never used pct till about a month ago. theres a large lump in his pec i think it's coz of all that eostrogen. but he's hugeee nd never been on it. and when he stops training for a while his muscles still don't go away