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    The Pump??

    I am considering taking my first Cycle

    1ml text ex
    1ml Deca

    How long will it be before i:

    1, Feel "the Pump"

    2, See results??

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    I am considering taking my first Cycle

    1ml text ex
    1ml Deca

    How long will it be before i:

    1, Feel "the Pump"

    2, See results??
    How old are you? What are your stats and lifting experience? What's the dosage per ml of the Deca and I'm guessing you meant Test, not text?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullMoonHowlingWolf View Post
    How old are you? What are your stats and lifting experience? What's the dosage per ml of the Deca and I'm guessing you meant Test, not text?
    Yeah sorry testex... dose is 250 i think?

    Im 26, 6ft, 13.5st

    Been triaing for about a year now and want to take to the next level... considered starting a cycle 3 months ago but didnt feel ready...

    now i do and thats what i have been recomended.

    I have a good clean diet... maybe dont eat enough but trying hard!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    I am considering taking my first Cycle

    1ml text ex
    1ml Deca

    How long will it be before i:

    1, Feel "the Pump"

    2, See results??
    Everybodys different but for me on that similiar cycle about a week or so for the pump and gets better and better
    size will increase the more into your cycle if your eating right. 1ml= ?MG of each
    Last edited by jer63; 09-19-2008 at 08:23 AM.

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    You would be much better off taking 500mg/week of just test. Drop the deca for your first cycle. Takes 4-6 weeks for long esters to peak.

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    yes drop the deca and do 2ml of testex every week for 12 weeks ,this will give great results if you diet is good.

    weeks 1-12 500mgs testex every week

    weeks 14 -18 clomid 100/100/50/50-nolva 20/20/20/20

    that would be a very basic good first cycle.

    you could use dbol to kick start @ around 30-40mgs every day for the first 4 weeks.

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    I got a wicked pump at the gym everytime Ive ever went, way before I even knew what aas was all about. I really dont understand your question...?

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ there is a huge difference between the natural pump and the aas pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jer63 View Post
    Everybodys different but for me on that similiar cycle about a week or so for the pump and gets better and better
    size will increase the more into your cycle if your eating right. 1ml= ?MG of each

    1ml = 250mg

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    Drop the Deca. Deca and/or Tren shouldnt be used by beginners IMO.

    Run Test E @250mg 2xW for 10-12 weeks.

    If you would like, you can kickstart with dbol @30mgs ED for the first four weeks.

    Any ideas for your PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    Yeah sorry testex... dose is 250 i think?

    Im 26, 6ft, 13.5st

    Been triaing for about a year now and want to take to the next level... considered starting a cycle 3 months ago but didnt feel ready...

    now i do and thats what i have been recomended.

    I have a good clean diet... maybe dont eat enough but trying hard!!
    IMO it's always good to have at least one year of heavy training before using gear due to the rapid increase in strength that your muscles are going to have. This prepares the connective tissues for the new stress that their going to be receiving and lessens the chance of injury. Since this is your first cycle I'd suggest taking Test using 300-500 mgs a week for 8-12 weeks. Everyone's going to have different opinions and if I was you I'd just do as much research as possible before starting. Save the Deca for your next cycle.

    Also, you'll want to make sure you have everything needed for your PCT before you start your cycle as this is vital to help keep the gains you make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    How long will it be before i:

    1, Feel "the Pump"

    2, See results??
    You should start feeling and seeing results within a few weeks. At 189 lbs you'll soon be entering into the 200+ club! What's your current BF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullMoonHowlingWolf View Post
    IMO it's always good to have at least one year of heavy training before using gear due to the rapid increase in strength that your muscles are going to have. This prepares the connective tissues for the new stress that their going to be receiving and lessens the chance of injury. Since this is your first cycle I'd suggest taking Test using 300-500 mgs a week for 8-12 weeks. Everyone's going to have different opinions and if I was you I'd just do as much research as possible before starting. Save the Deca for your next cycle.

    Also, you'll want to make sure you have everything needed for your PCT before you start your cycle as this is vital to help keep the gains you make.
    What would your recomendations be for PCT??

    MY BF is 17%

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    Also... is 5 weeks for

    1ml deca
    1ml test

    2x week

    long enough, just with it being my first i would like to evaluate after....

    im i likely to experience heavy water retention??

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    What would your recomendations be for PCT??

    MY BF is 17%
    PCT
    Week 1-6 Nolvadex 20mgs/day
    Week 1-4 Aromasin 20mgs/day
    Week 1-3 Vitamin E 1,000iu/day
    Week 1-3 HCG 500iu/day

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    Also... is 5 weeks for

    1ml deca
    1ml test

    2x week

    long enough,
    just with it being my first i would like to evaluate after....

    im i likely to experience heavy water retention??
    Please explain again what I've marked in red.

    You are going to experience water retention, everyone's different on how much and it depends on your sodium intake as well. If you experience high water retention you can ad a Arimidex. Are you going to have your blood work done prior and during your cycle?

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    17%bf is entirely too high to cycle IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullMoonHowlingWolf View Post
    Please explain again what I've marked in red.

    You are going to experience water retention, everyone's different on how much and it depends on your sodium intake as well. If you experience high water retention you can ad a Arimidex. Are you going to have your blood work done prior and during your cycle?
    No wasnt going to have it done...

    i was basically asking is 5 weeks long enough for this cycle?

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    5 weeks is not long enough.

    Test E takes about 4-6 weeks to kick

    Did you not read my post?

    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Drop the Deca. Deca and/or Tren shouldnt be used by beginners IMO.

    Run Test E @250mg 2xW for 10-12 weeks.

    If you would like, you can kickstart with dbol @30mgs ED for the first four weeks.

    Any ideas for your PCT?

    You obviously need to do some more research bro, DO NOT run a 5 week cycle, especialy at 17%BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    5 weeks is not long enough.

    Test E takes about 4-6 weeks to kick

    Did you not read my post?




    You obviously need to do some more research bro, DO NOT run a 5 week cycle, especialy at 17%BF.
    Im trying to do research... why is 17% BF too high??

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    You will get many more estrogen related sides when your BF% is high.

    Generally 12% is the accepted % to begin a cycle.

    The lower the better really.

    I can also tell, that if your BF% is that high, you have a crap diet.

    Diet and training are the most important parts of AAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    17%bf is entirely too high to cycle IMO.
    I agree with him, you should drop some BF first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    No wasnt going to have it done...

    i was basically asking is 5 weeks long enough for this cycle?
    No it's not long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    You will get many more estrogen related sides when your BF% is high.

    Generally 12% is the accepted % to begin a cycle.

    The lower the better really.

    I can also tell, that if your BF% is that high, you have a crap diet.

    Diet and training are the most important parts of AAS.
    I totally agree with War and as I mentioned above and so has he, you need to educate yourself! Steroids are not magical.

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