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    superdrol and gyno

    Can superdrol give you gyno?

    According to whats written on the label of it, it says that it does not convert to estrogen whatsoever....

    but I'm wondering if this is REALLY true or not...

    the reason I ask is because the makers of M1T claimed the same thing about M1T (that it wont turn into estrogen), but a lot of people told me that it can turn into estrogen

    anyone with some experience with superdrol have any gyno problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg42058p View Post
    Can superdrol give you gyno?

    According to whats written on the label of it, it says that it does not convert to estrogen whatsoever....

    but I'm wondering if this is REALLY true or not...

    the reason I ask is because the makers of M1T claimed the same thing about M1T (that it wont turn into estrogen), but a lot of people told me that it can turn into estrogen

    anyone with some experience with superdrol have any gyno problems?

    i think the gyno some speak of is progesterone related.

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    Superdrol is a structural derivative of the parent compound Masteron. It was orginally thought to be a progestin b/c of users experiencing gyno that did not respond to conventional SERM treatment. Superdrol has some anti-estrogen properties so when users would run Anti-e's during and after cycles this would cause severe estrogen suppression. Once the use of the anti-e's stopped users would experience an estro rebound effect. And this is where we get the understanding of the delayed onset that most users report
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed500 View Post
    Superdrol is a structural derivative of the parent compound Masteron. It was orginally thought to be a progestin b/c of users experiencing gyno that did not respond to conventional SERM treatment. Superdrol has some anti-estrogen properties so when users would run Anti-e's during and after cycles this would cause severe estrogen suppression. Once the use of the anti-e's stopped users would experience an estro rebound effect. And this is where we get the understanding of the delayed onset that most users report
    so are you saying that it can have progesterone related gyno affects?

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    lots of guys get gyno after they stop superdrol and dont do a pct.

    make sure you do a pct and have an AI on hand just to be sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    lots of guys get gyno after they stop superdrol and dont do a pct.

    make sure you do a pct and have an AI on hand just to be sure
    Exactly, most people I know that use/used superdrol don't think pct is needed, of course they are wrong, and that is where their gyno comes from. I've never heard of anyone getting gyno while on superdrol, I know I've never had an issue. As stated above, keep an anti e on hand and post cycle and I am sure you will love it, at least it is one of my favorites.

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    Guess the starter of this repeative post didnt read the sticky on superdrol in the supplement forum, thats what its there for. WIll explain all this and more for u bro. Again, thats why its a sticky and why its there. M1t and SD dont convert while "On" but when coming off (just as on any cycle) without a proper or strong pct u will have really high chances of getting gyno. Most people think since superdrol, pher-plex, halodrol, m1t, and the newest rage of stupid tren wannabe prohormones are all sold otc that otc pct will be fine. 6-oxo, novedex xt, etc, is not pct but a waste of money imo! Use that money on liquid nolva/aromasin, does a pct good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    lots of guys get gyno after they stop superdrol and dont do a pct.

    make sure you do a pct and have an AI on hand just to be sure
    your right about this as well.
    people should get this straight,,,SUPERDROL is a designer AAS.
    you must run PCT IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    Guess the starter of this repeative post didnt read the sticky on superdrol in the supplement forum, thats what its there for. WIll explain all this and more for u bro. Again, thats why its a sticky and why its there. M1t and SD dont convert while "On" but when coming off (just as on any cycle) without a proper or strong pct u will have really high chances of getting gyno. Most people think since superdrol, pher-plex, halodrol, m1t, and the newest rage of stupid tren wannabe prohormones are all sold otc that otc pct will be fine. 6-oxo, novedex xt, etc, is not pct but a waste of money imo! Use that money on liquid nolva/aromasin, does a pct good!

    I read it. I'm still wondering if i'll need to get letrozole because that helps combat progesterone in conjunction to estrogen.. and i dont know if the gyno will be progesterone or estrogen related....


    what i'm really wondering is
    why do you need PCT to prevent Gyno if it doesn't convert to estrogen while on it?

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    First off I'm just going to say that superdrol is one of those bastards that is hard to figure out and as yet to be fully understood.

    2a,17a-Dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one- Superdrol

    2a-methyl-17ß -hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one- Masteron

    17ß-hydroxy-2-hydroxymethylene-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-3-one- Anadrol

    Superdrol is the modification of Masteron by adding another methyl group to the 17th position. Or they added 2a-17a-dimethyl to Masteron. It gets its name from it being super-saturated form of Anadrol. Superdrol is a example of a crossbreed b/w Anadrol and Masteron and falls between the chemical natures of the two. Since it is already reduced at the 5th position it cannot make estrogen and progesterone is not an issue.

    The reason it seems that people get gyno after a superdrol cycle is b/c we produce androstenedione naturally.

    Androstenedione (also known as 4-androstenedione) is a 19-carbon steroid hormone produced in the adrenal glands and the gonads as an intermediate step in the biochemical pathway that produces the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol.
    It is one step away from testosterone or could convert to estradiol through the aromatase enzyme. This is the reason for gyno after a cycle b/c the body won't convert SD into estrogen but can already use the other available hormones to do so.

    For PCT I'd suggest a SERM/6 oxo. Letro will be overkill and may cause the dreaded rebound effect. I continue to say and believe that people are too worried about estrogen and do not understand that it is anabolic. People adding in AI's to every cycle are IMO hindering significant gains that could be made. Now granted it is needed in some cycles, mostly advance ones though. It is all about estrogen control and this is where blood work comes in handy.


    Hope this helps

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    thanks it does. I'll keep it all in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg42058p View Post
    thanks it does. I'll keep it all in mind.
    Are you saying that it does create estrogen. Perhaps 0.1% can aromatize in theory but everything I wrote is the current word on superdrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed500 View Post
    Are you saying that it does create estrogen. Perhaps 0.1% can aromatize in theory but everything I wrote is the current word on superdrol
    haha
    no actually i meant to respond to you saying "i hope this helps" and i meant "yes it does help"

    the info was good. sounds very similar to other things ive been reading about it



    P.S.
    how long do you think I should do my PCT for? I'm 23 years old, about 250lbs and 15% body fat... never really done any serious cycles before
    would 3 weeks of nolvadex/tamoxifen/clomid be enough?
    Last edited by jg42058p; 09-21-2008 at 01:00 PM.

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    Very good my friend, sometimes its hard to decipher what someone is addressing.


    Happy lifting!!

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