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  1. 09-21-2008, 10:27 AM #1
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    Tren/Test/Winny

    Thinking about this combo for moderate quality gains and cutting. Just not sure if I should run nolva at 20mg ed throughout the cycle? Need some help here!
    Wk1-10 100mg test blend EOD
    75mg Tren EOD
    20mg nolva ED
    Wk7-10 50mg winny ED

    Thanks a bunch!
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  2. 09-21-2008, 03:27 PM #2
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    its not good idea to take nolvadex with tren(nor 19)
    letro or aramidex as anti estrogen
    i see its good cycle
    but tell us more about u bf+last cycels
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  3. 09-21-2008, 03:28 PM #3
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    and how about ur pct?
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  4. 09-21-2008, 03:33 PM #4
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    Taking nolva on cycle is a bad idea in any case IMO.

    But with Tren/or Deca its a HORRIBLE IDEA!

    We need stats!

    age
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    diet summary/# meals per day
    years lifting / workout split
    cycle experience
    pct/estrogen control knowledge
    goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

    Oh and Ace needs to be shot ED not EOD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Taking nolva on cycle is a bad idea in any case IMO.

    But with Tren/or Deca its a HORRIBLE IDEA!
    why is it a bad idea?, what will happen?
    its ok to take it after your cycle though yeah?
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    Its bad because if taken with tren\deca or drol it will INCREASE sides.

    Nolvadex is also TOO anti-catabolic. the way muscle grows is by tearing down and rebuilding bigger. Nolvadex greatly decreases that, actually endurance athletes take it to decrease muscle fatigue.
    Basically it hinders gains...

    Others will tell you that when used for gyno flares this is not the case. This is true. But if taken throughout cycle, this will all but surely happen.

    And yes, you take it in your PCT.

    Nolvadex is the conerstone of any good PCT. It is a must.
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  7. 09-21-2008, 05:14 PM #7
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    ahh ok cool thanks guy
    and i totally didnt mean to jack this thread sorry bud
    take it back.. my bad
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  8. 09-21-2008, 05:53 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Nolvadex is also TOO anti-catabolic. the way muscle grows is by tearing down and rebuilding bigger. Nolvadex greatly decreases that, actually endurance athletes take it to decrease muscle fatigue.
    Basically it hinders gains...
    What? You stop posting and start reading! Everything you said about nolvadex is completely, for lack of a better word, retarded.
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  9. 09-21-2008, 06:02 PM #9
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    Show me where then Jigga...

    Id love to read more...
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  10. 09-21-2008, 06:05 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Show me where then Jigga...

    Id love to read more...
    It all starts will google search. Find me a single article saying nolva is anti-catabolic. It's not.
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