Running nolva throughout cycle?

**firedawg64** · 09-21-2008, 10:39 AM

Is it a good idea to run nolva @ 20mg ED throughout test/tren /winny cycle?

**ReallyBigBiceps** · 09-21-2008, 10:42 AM

why do you think it could be a good idea? what are you expecting to get out of it?

**VWbug66** · 09-21-2008, 10:40 PM

i dont use nolva until I start to see side effects, then I start taking it.

**oneshot** · 09-21-2008, 11:38 PM

most would recommend using an AI like a-dex on cycle rather than nolva. nolva could possibly make the tren sides worse. if you are concerned about estrogen sides, go with a-dex. If you are concerned with progesterone and prolactin sides, then go with caber, bromo, or letro to just fry them all.

**WARMachine** · 09-22-2008, 12:33 AM

Nolva with Tren will almost definatly create sides...

Get A-dex or Letro...

**peachfuzz** · 09-22-2008, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Nolva with Tren will almost definatly create sides...

Get A-dex or Letro...

agreed, but no need to run it from the start. just have it on hand. what are your doses?

**WARMachine** · 09-22-2008, 12:42 AM

If you indend to run A-dex then yes, run it from the start...

**peachfuzz** · 09-22-2008, 12:47 AM

why?

**WARMachine** · 09-22-2008, 01:05 AM

So you dont get estrogen related sides?

Why bother waiting for them to arise? Or if you would rather wait till you see signs of gyno, you should use Letro and 86 them all together...

**peachfuzz** · 09-22-2008, 01:21 AM

estrogen helps facilitate muscle growth. i know you know this. so why reduce a beneficial test/estro ratio when you may not have to. its not like gyno develops overnight. provided estrogen control is implemented at the earliest signs of side effects you will be ok. thus i say keep it on hand and use as needed, but to each there own.

**WARMachine** · 09-22-2008, 01:32 AM

You will not eliminate estrogen with A-dex... It can be taken from the beginning of the cycle without inhibiting gains...

Yes, you will be ok if you control estrogen related sides as soon as they appear. But why give them a chance to appear? I only run an AI throughout cycle when using Tren .

Otherwise its not really a must.

**VWbug66** · 09-22-2008, 08:25 PM

well I like to not use the nolv or adex or letro bc last 2 cycles I used them through out, it hindered my gains significantly..

So, I like to wait till I think I see the slightest bad sides, then use one of those compounds.

**ReallyBigBiceps** · 09-22-2008, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by VWbug66

well I like to not use the nolv or adex or letro bc last 2 cycles I used them through out, it hindered my gains significantly..

So, I like to wait till I think I see the slightest bad sides, then use one of those compounds.

what dosages?

**MercyDog** · 09-22-2008, 10:29 PM

no nipple probs. then no nolva while on

**WARMachine** · 09-23-2008, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by ReallyBigBiceps

what dosages?

^^^
NOLVA IS HORRIBLE TO TAKE WITH TREN OR DECA !!!

Nolva is dumb to take on cycle anyway IMO...

AI's do a much better job and no worries about losing gains...

btw, Mercy, thats one SWEET looking Blue nose... Yours?

**ReallyBigBiceps** · 09-23-2008, 11:08 AM

im asking what dosages of each compound used in said cycle resulted in "a loss of gains"

**Gym Freak** · 09-25-2008, 10:29 AM

Don't do Nolvadex while on cycle. It hindered my gains and I felt like crap while taking it. I stopped after a week but my gains again where not as great before starting the Nolvadex. The half life of Nolvadex is like 5-7 days. So it stays with you for a little bit after stopping it. Stick with the AI's during cycle and keep the Nolvadex for PCT.