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  1. 09-21-2008, 05:34 PM #1
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    my 2nd cycle

    hey guys im back with few more questions lol

    im planning my 2nd cycle to start mid december this year.. so far it is as follows....

    test cyp (testex) 250ml 2 x a week for 12 weeks
    winstrol depot ed weeks 8-14 (50mgs/ml)
    hcg weeks 10-14 250iu 2 x a week
    nolvadex weeks 14-18
    proviron weeks 14-18

    the reason i want to take the winny is to cut up towards the end of my cycle

    im 26,
    6ft 4ins
    261 pounds
    good diet

    been training on/off for 5years..been training solid for last 6months
    my question is if gyno occurs do i start taking the nolvadex on cycle? if so how much and for how long?
    also any input to my cycle would be appriciated
    thanks bro's
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  2. 09-21-2008, 05:37 PM #2
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    yes if gyno symptoms pop up start the nolvadex.
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  3. 09-21-2008, 05:40 PM #3
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    also im considering throwing in some d-bol into my cycle ...wot do u guys reckon?
    ive heard its bad for acne and water retention any advice?
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  4. 09-21-2008, 05:49 PM #4
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    It is bad for water retention if your diet sucks...

    Whats your BF% @ 261lbs?

    I disagree with Mulciber.. Dont use Nolva on cycle.

    Get adex instead...
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  5. 09-21-2008, 05:51 PM #5
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    the dbol is up to you.. if im running a 17aa at both the beginning and end of a cycle i run the cycle a few weeks longer to give a little break between the 2.
    acne, depends on the individual.. i never had issues.
    water retention. proper diet, lots of water and an ai if you like.. like adex/ldex
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  6. 09-21-2008, 05:55 PM #6
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    think ill leave the d-bol for this cycle tbh
    so before i start my cycle i should have adex on hand then?
    also is there another name that adex is known as?
    i dont know my exact bf % but apart from a little belly im pretty lean.
    ive lost almost half a stone of fat in the last 4months and im planning to up the cardio until i start my cycle so should be a decent bf% by then
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    again with the nolvadex on cycle.. the debate will continue till the end of time. but we are talking if gyno symptoms are there not as a preventave measure.
    now nolvadex is the best treatment for gyno symptoms hands down..
    reason for not running nolvadex during cycle is because possible loss of gains.. which i dont see any difference when using it or not.
    now let me ask you this.. if you have gyno symptoms what is going to be your first concern, a possible loss of gains or sporting a set of tits.. to me the answer is easy
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    Niether... Take Adex (or an AI) and not get any signs of gyno and dont have any gain losses...

    To me thats an easy answer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Niether... Take Adex (or an AI) and not get any signs of gyno and dont have any gain losses...

    To me thats an easy answer...
    word. AI's replaced SERM's.
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    true, if your running adex from the beginning.. but i dont see that in his cycle
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    thats why hes asking for imput...
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    lol.. yep
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  13. 09-21-2008, 06:12 PM #13
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    war are u saying i should run adex through my whole cycle?
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    i do.. but if you dont and gyno symptoms pop up then go with nolvadex..

    oh sorry, you were asking war..............
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    If you are concered about gyno then yes...

    Again, what is your BF% @ 261lbs?

    I assume its in the high teens?

    You are more likely to develop estrogen related sides at higher BF%'s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulciber View Post
    i do.. but if you dont and gyno symptoms pop up then go with nolvadex..

    oh sorry, you were asking war..............
    mulciber i take advice from all u guys bro chill... i was jus trying to findout if thats what war meant..thanks for ur help btw

    war as i said i dnt no my bf but at a guess i would say high teens. also is adex known by any other names? im from uk if that matters and thanks 2 u aswell bro
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    liquidex... Its liquid Adex...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cokecoon View Post
    mulciber i take advice from all u guys bro chill... i was jus trying to findout if thats what war meant..thanks for ur help btw
    nah bro i was just screwin around.. its all good
    im about as laid back as they get..
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