questions about dbol

[emrich750]

Hey I know that dbol by itself is not suggested but its all I can get. Is the only downside to taking alone is losing gains at end of cycle?

[KILAC79]

much more than that.

[WARMachine]

+ probable water retention and gyno...

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[emrich750]

like what?

[KILAC79]

I lost my appitite on d-bol couldn't eat to save my life. your going to be all full of water bro and you will get stronger but 2 days after your done everythings gone. not worth it.

[emrich750]

6'1 205lbs
29yrs
6 meals daily about 190g protien from food another 60g from supps. no sat fats
experience about 6 years
never cycled before
no a little bout pct and estro control

[KILAC79]

i forgot about gyno!! how in the name of did i forget that one. maybe buy a bra just in case lol. also the acne from d-bol wasn't good.

[WARMachine]

Lol...

[emrich750]

i know about gain loss but if i got it might as well do it. I mean when im done ill be at the same size/syrenght already am at right?

[emrich750]

don't want tities man

[WARMachine]

bf%?

And 190G's isnt nearly enough to grow. Thats just enough to maintain IMO.

Im the same size as you and i get nearly 325G's of protein from food!

[KILAC79]

why don't u hold onto it until you can get some test even if it takes awhile then maybe you can plan a nice cyle

[WARMachine]

Show me a regular days diet summary/# meals per day.

Include how much the food weighs and macros if you got em'.

Use this kind of format:

EXAMPLE:

Meal 1
8 egg whites
80G's of Oatmeal

Meal 2
6 oz of Tuna
4 oz of mixed veggies
ETC...

[emrich750]

yah its getting expensive! Don't know exact bf% but its not high... pretty lean!

[KILAC79]

bf%?

And 190G's isnt nearly enough to grow. Thats just enough to maintain IMO.

Im the same size as you and i get nearly 325G's of protein from food!

hey war4btt i'm 180 pounds 5'11 10%bf if i'm taking in about 200g of protien is that enough to grow.

[WARMachine]

Guesstimate?

8? 10? 12?

[Big]

what is it lately, I could open the forum, close my eyes and throw a dart at the monitor and chances are it would hit a question about a dbol only cycle.

[WARMachine]

hey war4btt i'm 180 pounds 5'11 10%bf if i'm taking in about 200g of protien is that enough to grow.

I dont know... Are you growing?




Id never eat less than 250G's a day personally.

Start a thread in the diet section with your diet... Ill post on it...

[WARMachine]

what is it lately, I could open the forum, close my eyes and throw a dart at the monitor and chances are it would hit a question about a dbol only cycle.

Kids these days...

God forbid anyone use the search button... They'd find 100000 threads with the same questions and the same answers...

[emrich750]

not quite as strict as that... just count protien, cut fats. Ive been good about the diet as far as knowing whats going in body but mostly chicken and veggies morning, day, and night!

[emrich750]

about 10%. I did a search but it was mostly about losing gains after the db cycle only.

[KILAC79]

well yea i am growing but also at the same time i don't know if its just because of my cycle instead of my diet. I'm trying to bulk up so i'm eating a lot and my diet consists of eggs chicken and potatos and the infamous N-large. But not sure if i need to up my protien intake cuz i'm around 182 - 185. don't mean to change the thread i'm back to the d-bol topic now. sorry

[WARMachine]

Start a diet thread... 200G's isnt enough to grow natty, let alone while on cycle. That means your only eating around 3000cals huh?

[WARMachine]

not quite as strict as that... just count protien, cut fats. Ive been good about the diet as far as knowing whats going in body but mostly chicken and veggies morning, day, and night!

Show me a regular days diet summary/# meals per day.

Include how much the food weighs and macros if you got em'.

Use this kind of format:


EXAMPLE:

Meal 1
8 egg whites
80G's of Oatmeal

Meal 2
6 oz of Tuna
4 oz of mixed veggies
ETC...

[KILAC79]

around 4000cals

[emrich750]

#1 5 eggs
1 cup dry granola
protien shake
#2 3 chicken cutlet breast
drysalad
#3 3 chix breast, 2 servings veggies, dry salad with tuna

#4 tuna plain, usually have some carb on this meal (pre workout)
veggies, sometimes snickers
#5 shake, 2 sliced turkey breast (bout 1lbs) wraps loaded with veggies and usually have cheese in these

# 6 grilled chix and veggies, shake

this varies day to day but is pretty close to the same. with occasional slips

[WARMachine]

around 4000cals

That cant be much of a diet. How many carbs are you getting? Again post up your diet in the diet section... When youre done, post a link for me...

[WARMachine]

#1 5 eggs
1 cup dry granola (1 cup is not enough. Try 3-4oz of dryed oats,)
protien shake (Add 8 egg whites or egg white sub.)
#2 3 chicken cutlet breast (Weight? Maybe 8 oz here? Try around 6 oz. Add 7oz of sweet potatos.)
drysalad
#3 3 chix breast, 2 servings veggies, dry salad with tuna (Weight? Try 6 oz chicken, turkey or beef
4oz cooked barley)

#4 tuna plain, usually have some carb on this meal (pre workout)
veggies, sometimes snickers (NO SNICKERS! Empty cals, with TONS of sugar. 6 oz chicken, turkey or beef, and 4-5 oz of brwn rice, or sweet potato, or Lentils)
#5 shake, 2 sliced turkey breast (bout 1lbs) wraps loaded with veggies and usually have cheese in these (One shake a day is fine. A pound of deli turkey? Dude. Add 6 oz chicken, 7.5 oz cooked sweet potato, and 4 oz of mixed veggies.)

# 6 grilled chix and veggies, shake (This is your dinner?
My dinner generalyl looks like this.
6 oz steak
7.5 oz of Baked Potato
4oz of mixed veggies.
300 grams strawberries/blueberries
6oz of green Salad with 1 tablespoon olive oil
)

this varies day to day but is pretty close to the same. with occasional slips

Hope this helps...

And i really hope you listen and not use AAS yet. With that diet, its no wonder you cant gain anymore.

You had almost NO complex carbs. All your protein was from chicken. You werent getting enough Cals or Protein.

I consider it a miracle that you managed to get to 205lbs w/ 10%BF on that diet... You must be lucky and have good genes.

[stillworking21]

I am curious about starting first cycle. I have researched a bitt about gyno and PCT and am wondering what I should look at? Such as types? amounts? length? It seems like there is a lot of usefull info here but it almost is overwhelming...Any suggestions?

[stillworking21]

If this info is helpful here it is...
height 5'9"
weight 175
BF around 15% (would like to lower this number obviously)
about 5 years lifting experience
diet-pretty good about 250g protein a day

[WARMachine]

^^^

Start your own thread bro...

And your questions can easily be answered by doing minimal research.

[emrich750]

alright.. sounds good. Like I said It varies some. So I should just sit on the dbol huh? That sucks man... burning curiosity here! Not even low dose?

[WARMachine]

Youd be wasting it...

Im not your dad bro...

But as a guy who likes to think he knows what hes doing. Id say you would be better off in the long run waiting till all your issues are in check before cycling....


Did you even have a PCT?

[emrich750]

no pct. this is my first endevour in aas. only reason I am even considering it is cause the dbol kinda fell in my lap. other than that I might not have even considered it... it got me interested yah know.

[WARMachine]

Yeah i would definatly not do it then...

No PCT = No JUICE!

Youre asking for problems bro...

Read up some more. Get that diet i gave you going. (Trust me, id be shocked if you didnt gain 5lbs in the first 2months.) and learn a little about PCT and then think about jumping on a cycle.

You will be WAY better off.

[emrich750]

ill take the advice man...thanks.