Test enan only cycle.. What sort of results?

**bradhore** · 09-24-2008, 12:38 AM

What sort of results am i likely to gain from a test only cycle for 12 weeks? previous cycles have been:

test enan + deca ,
test enan + dbol + deca,
test + tren

**Drake Hotel** · 09-24-2008, 05:36 AM

A test only cycle would give excellent results.

**tbjake34** · 09-24-2008, 06:30 AM

Great results. Run it at 750mg/wk i put on close to 30lbs on a dirty bulk and I still stayed pretty lean (about 8% bf) and my strenght was insane. But remember TEST IS KING!!!

**Freakish** · 09-24-2008, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

Great results. Run it at 750mg/wk i put on close to 30lbs on a dirty bulk and I still stayed pretty lean (about 8% bf) and my strenght was insane. But remember TEST IS KING!!!

jeez bro 30lbs on a dirty bulk and stayed 8%bf.....those are some unbelieveble results

**Freakish** · 09-24-2008, 06:34 AM

to the thread starter,there are too many variables for us to tell you how you will react to test only,but if your diet and training are spot on you'll get some good results

**tbjake34** · 09-24-2008, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Freakish

jeez bro 30lbs on a dirty bulk and stayed 8%bf.....those are some unbelieveble results

I know ive been blessed with good genetics.. I could eat mcdonalds all day everyday and still not lose my abs. In fact I did eat a lot of fast food on that cycle lol.

**inky-e** · 09-24-2008, 06:51 AM

Everone is different...theres no telling what your gains will be......diet is the key factor for that.

**jixxxer** · 09-24-2008, 09:29 AM

Im starting that very cycle. What kind of pct u gonna run with it?

**bradhore** · 09-24-2008, 09:31 AM

Week 1-2 40mg clomid
week 2-4 20mg clomid

**Drake Hotel** · 09-24-2008, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by bradhore

Week 1-2 40mg clomid
week 2-4 20mg clomid

Huh? Do you mean week 1 and week 2-4, or week 1-2 and week 3-4? Also those doses look like nolva doses, which typically come in 20mg/tab, while clomid comes in doses of 50mg/tab. Sure you didn't get them mixed up?

**bradhore** · 09-24-2008, 09:52 AM

yeah nolva i mean. and yeah week 3-4 not 2-4 lol

**Johny-too-small** · 09-24-2008, 09:54 AM

The keys to being a bodybuilder: Genetics, Diet, Consistancy, Test.

Test is all you will ever need as far as anabolics. If youre not happy with your results then its because one of the other keys is not good.

**jixxxer** · 09-24-2008, 09:56 AM

so, anyone else want to chime in on that pct? I was being advised to do clomid and nolva.

**"Maximus"** · 09-24-2008, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by jixxxer

so, anyone else want to chime in on that pct? I was being advised to do clomid and nolva.

Yes, clomid and nolva is fine...

PCT:

Wks 1-2 Nolva/Clomid 20mg/50mg
Wks 3-4 Nolva/Clomid 20mg/25mg

If you stick to Nolva only, though not recommended even if this is a Test only cycle, run it for 6 wks straight at 20mg ED. Depending how you feel your body responding to the Nolva, you can taper it down to 10mg on Wks 5-6.

**"Maximus"** · 09-24-2008, 10:03 AM

Others might run a different course, but that's good enough and safe. If you're gyno prone then other measures must be taken during cycle and PCT.

**LATS60** · 09-24-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by jixxxer

so, anyone else want to chime in on that pct? I was being advised to do clomid and nolva.

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50.

**Drake Hotel** · 09-24-2008, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by LATS60

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50.

Agreed. (Doing that pct as we speak.)

**jixxxer** · 09-24-2008, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by LATS60

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50.

those dosages are daily for one week, like 100mg clo. daily week one then 50 daily week 2 etc.? Seems like a lot of clomid but hey yall know more than me!

**"Maximus"** · 09-24-2008, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by jixxxer

those dosages are daily for one week, like 100mg clo. daily week one then 50 daily week 2 etc.? Seems like a lot of clomid but hey yall know more than me!

It comes down to how your feeling while on PCT or how you notice your responding... i.e., if you're feeling overly emotional, down, or notice at the gym that stamina, pumps, avg. lean mass size have decreased more than 25% of total gains made on cycle.

I agree the clomid dosed at 100mg for the 1st week is a bit high, but that works for both of them. However, you can try a mix of the suggestions given to you above and if you feel lacking or doing great at any of the combos, then just adjust dosages accordingly or simply keep using the one that works best for you.

**LATS60** · 09-24-2008, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by jixxxer

those dosages are daily for one week, like 100mg clo. daily week one then 50 daily week 2 etc.? Seems like a lot of clomid but hey yall know more than me!

Thats actually not a lot of clomid, nolva mg/mg is three times stronger than clomid, you could run it higher and many ppl do who have come off high dose long cycles, the only thing to remember is clomid should not be used for more than 4wks.