dbol and adex

[akaz13]

I know you need an anti-estrogen w/ dbol. And I think I read that you should start the AI before dbol, but I can't remember how long before...

So, the question is, how long (how many days) before you start dbol should you have been taking adex?

[WARMachine]

First off we need these stats...

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

Also, what cycle are you doing?

Include doses as well as how long your running it for.

[oneshot]

First off we need these stats...

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

Also, what cycle are you doing?

Include doses as well as how long your running it for.

damn ya beat me to it. stats are a must for accurate feedback. you dont necessarily need an AI with dbol, nor would you start taking it before the dbol. I hope you're not running dbol by itself

[akaz13]

35
5'10"
250lb
dunno
about 450 g protein / day - cals, however it shakes out, 5 meals/ day
this is my 1st cycle
going into a cruise, so PCT not an issue (though I have the compounds on hand)
goals: size, strength. But I am as much into strength as size, so I lean toward PL a little to add go to the show, since I use to play sports, so it's a thing w/ me..

the dbol is to end this cycle w/ a bang since I am peaking toward new maxes.

[WARMachine]

So are you looking to go pro?

and whats a guesstimate for BF%?

And whats the cycle?

[akaz13]

So are you looking to go pro? - Or something. Not being a smart ass, but I have heard it said that you'll never now if you are pro material if you don't cruise.

and whats a guesstimate for BF%? - 15%

And whats the cycle? - 500mg test e/ wk, the cruise will be 250 mg test e/ wk, mixing in new compounds during the cycles.

[WARMachine]

How long do you intend to be on?

I mean you must come off at some point...

[akaz13]

How long do you intend to be on? - I hadn't thought about it, but this is my 1st cycle, so it is not like this is has been going on for crazy long, at crazy high doses. I have only been on for 14 wks.

And I would be closer to the cruise by now but had some problems getting the dbol.

I mean you must come off at some point... - True, but I am over 30 and trt means being on, permanently. That said, now we are just talking abut spec dosage.

But don't get me wrong, I am not commited to doing crazy sh*t. I am a pretty sane and overall safe minded person. I was over 30 before I ever had gear in my hands, or began to consider it.

But again, it became clear that if you intend to take it serious, you gotta cruise. Not nec take crazy high doses, but you gotta cruise - or else it will take a lot longer, and considering my age... A younger dude probably shouldn't do it so casually tho....

[akaz13]

I really can't remember where I read it. I was petty sure I saw someone post about wanting to allow the AI to build up for a cpl days before they sarted some strongly estrogenic compound.

So I made a mental note of it, knowing that dbol causes a good deal of estro sides. But now I can't remember where I read it now... So I asked..

[Big]

I'd like to see a pic of how you look now.

[akaz13]

I'd like to see a pic of how you look now.

Good luck w/ that one... The one's I have now, I took myself (no easy feat) and they are up on non-gear sites... so there is no way I am going to connect them to a gear site...

Also, as I said before, I think 250lb sounds very deceptive. I think ppl have 250lb in their minds eye and think you have 21" arms, etc, etc...

I weighed 210lb in HS. I have a son that weighs 200lbs at 14 y/o (not fat at all, 3 sport athlete). I have genes from a good sized family. I would need to weigh about 275 - 285lb to have the development that someone would think when they hear 250lb (on a guy who was naturally 160 - 180lb).

[Big]

you could just block your face out and post a pic here like I did. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, at your stats you probably look pretty jacked already.

[akaz13]

you could just block your face out and post a pic here like I did. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, at your stats you probably look pretty jacked already.

Oh, I can definitely fill up a shirt.

I have a few XLs from when I was younger that I just throw on when I am around the house that look like I am wearing shoulder pads underneath.

I had one on at the grocery store last night that got a lot of second looks... I will see what I can do about a pic that will keep me anonymous, for obvious reasons....

[WARMachine]

Just take one in your bathroom that you are taking with no shirt on.

Just edit out your head with photoshop or paint programs.

[akaz13]

Just take one in your bathroom that you are taking with no shirt on.

Just edit out your head with photoshop or paint programs.

I'll see, bro. Taking ur own pix in a mirror is a pain in the ass, the wrong lighting and it doesn't show well. About the only thing that comes out well are arms pix...

Or maybe I am just bigorexic enough that they never look right to me.. who knows..

And the trial and error is a total waste of time, but I'll see...

[CeeLo]

Where's that pic?