2nd cycle preperation

[lovbyts]

Hello again. Ive been here still, never really left just doing more reading than posting; especially the diet section.

OK I finished my first cycle about a month ago. I had good solid gains. My weight did not really go up but lost a more body fat (didn't have much) and muscles size/strength/size noticeable increase.
5' 8" 180 lbs train 4-6x a week depending on week.

Diet is in check. Body fat around 10%, maybe 12% at the most. Defiantly much leaner than when I started my first cycle or Test E 250 2x week and HGH daily. No issues with gyno, still doing PCT Nolva.

Next cycle I will up my protein intake with some shakes since I didn't gain as much as I would like. I had problems eating that much all the time even with keeping food at my desk at work all day like chicken, tuna, oat meal etc. LOL

OK here is my idea for cycle #2. I don't plan on starting until around Jan, 2009 due to holiday and vacations. Goals, more clean size.

Here is my cycle #2
week 1-4 25mg dbol ed
week 1-12 600mg test e split into Monday morning and Thursday night
Weeks 8 - 12 Stanazol Tabs (50mg..per day)
Use letro at 0.25mg e3d on cycle

PCT
13-15wk nolva 40mg ed
16-18wk nolva 20mg ed

[LATS60]

Hello again. Ive been here still, never really left just doing more reading than posting; especially the diet section.

OK I finished my first cycle about a month ago. I had good solid gains. My weight did not really go up but lost a more body fat (didn't have much) and muscles size/strength/size noticeable increase.
5' 8" 180 lbs train 4-6x a week depending on week.

Diet is in check. Body fat around 10%, maybe 12% at the most. Defiantly much leaner than when I started my first cycle or Test E 250 2x week and HGH daily. No issues with gyno, still doing PCT Nolva.

Next cycle I will up my protein intake with some shakes since I didn't gain as much as I would like. I had problems eating that much all the time even with keeping food at my desk at work all day like chicken, tuna, oat meal etc. LOL

OK here is my idea for cycle #2. I don't plan on starting until around Jan, 2009 due to holiday and vacations. Goals, more clean size.

Here is my cycle #2
week 1-4 25mg dbol ed
week 1-12 600mg test e split into Monday morning and Thursday night
Weeks 8 - 12 Stanazol Tabs (50mg..per day)
Use letro at 0.25mg e3d on cycle

PCT
13-15wk nolva 40mg ed
16-18wk nolva 20mg ed

Well i hope you are happier with this cycle, just goes to show you how important diet is, just one point dont start PCT till wk 14.
Or you could stop the test at wk 10 and then you will be anabolic all the way up to pct on wk 12 due to the stan. Or just run the stan for an extra 2wks.

[lovbyts]

Good advice. Yes I know diet is VERY important but I am still happy with my gains as they are. I look better than I have in 15+ years. BTW I'm 46 in next month.

[LATS60]

Good advice. Yes I know diet is VERY important but I am still happy with my gains as they are. I look better than I have in 15+ years. BTW I'm 46 in next month.

Happy prevoius birthday i'm 48 next month aaaarrghh.

[Mulciber]

well hell.guess 38 aint so bad afterall..lol

[lovbyts]

Does this look better?
week 1-4 25mg dbol ed
week 1-12 600mg test e split into Monday morning and Thursday night
Weeks 8 - 14 Stanazol Tabs (50mg..per day)
Use letro at 0.25mg e3d on cycle

PCT
14-16wk nolva 40mg ed
17-19wk nolva 20mg ed

[lovbyts]

I revised things just a little.

week 1-4 25mg dbol ed or 50mg
week 1-12 500mg test e split into Monday morning and Thursday night
Weeks 9 - 13 Stanazol Tabs (50mg..per day)
Use letro at 0.25mg e3d on cycle

PCT
13-15wk nolva 40mg ed
16-18wk nolva 20mg ed

I have been thinking, does anyone think there is need to throw Clomid in the mix for PCT?

Also I might be getting the dbol and winny together in liquid form already mixed.

Suggestions?

[helium3]

personally i dont think youd need it, but it depends on how you recover. was recovery easy the first time?

although it wouldnt hurt.

[lovbyts]

The first time I was only using the Test E and had Novla on hand for PCT I also ran HGH all the way through. Novla at the end for 4 weeks

but this time it's a little more mixed up so maybe need the clomid? I'm also thinking of getting some LiquiDex to throw in the mix. OK is this too much? Feel free to clean it up.

[WARMachine]

If you are using Letro no need for Adex while on cycle...

And Adex is no good for PCT. Nolva and dex reduce each others effectivness...

Clomid would be good to add in the PCT...

And were you saying that the dbol and winny is liquid and mixed together?

[lovbyts]

EDIT, No they are NOT mixed together, they are just both in liquid form. My bad.

[WARMachine]

hmm... Well seems kinda strange but UGL's are known for being so...

Anyway, did you get my previous advice?

[lovbyts]

Yes I did "If you are using Letro no need for Adex while on cycle...And Adex is no good for PCT. Nolva and dex reduce each others effectivness..."
I knew that but forgot, thanks. Ive only read it about 100x LOL

[lovbyts]

Edited
Never mind, I'm just reading/thinking to much. A little overload